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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by wollsmoth »

jaywalk wrote: post #163
Aeolun wrote: post #130

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I’m of the opinion that truly good clothes do not need to sport a logo at all. Unless you can see/feel the quality, why pay a premium just to show people you spent 500% more on your shirt?

People pay way more than 500% more just to have a logo on their shirt. It has nothing to do with quality.

nothing is lamer than a regular ass t-shirt with the logo of some luxury brand. To me this is just truly paying for the brand and not an actual quality product. A terrible waste of money in my opinion.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by dr_orpheus »

wyager wrote: post #170
Aeolun wrote: post #130

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I’m of the opinion that truly good clothes do not need to sport a logo at all. Unless you can see/feel the quality, why pay a premium just to show people you spent 500% more on your shirt?

Logos are for people who are insecure about status. Next level up involves partial counter-signaling by avoiding logos entirely. There are many layers of status displays. I think SSC's analysis of fashion as cellular automata is the most coherent writing on this.

Yeah, basically the old adage "Money talks, wealth whispers"

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Post by somehnguy »

r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I really like nice sportswear due to the materials, they’re just comfortable to wear. Unfortunately everything seems to require a Nike or Adidas logo somewhere on the clothing. I don’t even play sports! Anyone have recommendations for similar clothing but without the logos?

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by wollsmoth »

detritus wrote: post #77
brookside wrote: post #14

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I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Uniqlo

I've worn a 'uniform' based around Uniqlo's long sleeved tees for about 15 years now and I've noticed the quality drop off remarkably over the past few years. A shirt will barely last a few months now, whilst I still occasionally wear a [much be-holed] first generation from way back when and it's kept its size, shape and still feels soft. New ones shrink and feel crunchy after a few washes. Oh, and they're about twic…

Lands end has decent stuff imo. I like their "tailored fit" super-t. Some of the colors are bad but they fit me well I think. I don't know if their pants are any good. I just get Levis.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by rr888 »

daniel-cussen wrote: post #164
rr888 wrote: post #157

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I'd like to agree, but the second multi millionaire you knew lived in one of the wealthiest neighbourhoods in London, and the first multi millionaire you dont know where he lived but has an expensive car and is likely the same. I've always lived in cheap arsed neighbourhoods, my recent place is above average and it makes a lot of things easier - even if I dont really enjoy the boring corporate neighbours.

Mmm...yes it was an expensive car brand, but it is a common car in Africa because it's just so reliable, very rugged and also easy to repair. And it's not that expensive.

Sure, in the 50s and 60s. Toyota took over a long time ago.

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Post by danielvaughn »

arkitaip wrote: post #178
danielvaughn wrote: post #12

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I live in South Florida, a little bit above Miami, and work out of this little co-working space. A couple weeks ago, a new member joined, and after talking with him a bit, I learned that he had worked on the founding team for some very famous technology (don't want to name it publicly). So pretty impressive, but the guy is down to earth and humble about it, which I really respected. Some other people in the space (no…

Now imagine those people being recruiters, bosses and other gate keepers with considerable power over careers. It's dangerous to be a humble introvert in a world that's anything but.

I've been in managerial role for a while now, so I can appreciate the "other side", as a recruiter/interviewer. It's hard because you're having to make judgement calls with very limited information, so I can easily empathize.

But as a recruiter or boss, the onus is on me to suss out the data I need. Given that introverted people have always existed and will always exist, it would be ignorant and lazy of me to only pick from the crop that puts themselves in the spotlight for me. Not to mention the very obvious fact that a lot of people are very good at selling themselves, even when they have nothing to offer.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by wollsmoth »

wazoox wrote: post #49

I constantly wear clothes with logos such as : O'Reilly, Slackware, Debian, FSF, Postgresql... do you think it makes people less likely to cooperate? :)

That seems fine. I do try to only wear work swag at work though.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by nonrandomstring »

deebosong wrote: post #190
nonrandomstring wrote: post #96

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And fashion has supplanted function. Anecdata from just last week... My partner wanted some new running trainers. She went to a popular high-street store here in the UK called JD Sports and said to the assistant "I'm looking for some new running shoes". In a bizarre fit of honesty the lady said: "Sorry we don't really do running gear here, we sell more fashion items." I'm sure her manager would have been appalled to…

there was some article from New Yorker or NYTimes – with a quick google search I can't seem to find it at the moment. but the thesis was basically: sports wear has often influenced mainstream fashion since even like 100 years ago. but in each generation, people find it initially shocking to see so many people wearing what is marketed and made for sportswear for leisure, or even seeing it spill into the workplace. i t…

> made for sportswear for leisure, or even seeing it spill into the workplace

Hopefully you are young enough to have been spared the indignity of witnessing a plague of fluorescent legwarmers and sweatbands escape the aerobics gyms of the 1980s. :)

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by _notathrowaway »

sleepymoose wrote: post #33

I think this is why I get along so well with construction workers. As far as my personal presentation goes, I definitely look more like a carpeneter than a sysadmin on any given day.

>I definitely look more like a carpeneter than a sysadmin on any given day.

Does that mean you enjoy dressing up for work?

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by happyopossum »

While I may agree with the study's conclusions, the first line struck me as extremely biased and unscientific:

"People who can afford luxury goods tend to buy them, and to show them off."

In my experience, that's a crap shoot - some do, some don't. It also begs the question - what's a "luxury good" vs one that lasts longer, has more utility, etc?

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