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Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by greedo »

causality0 wrote: post #141
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

Creeping around and posting paranoid messages is silly but I wouldn't blame anyone for ignoring an unexpected knock. The ratio between people I want to engage with and people I don't is just too low. For every teenage girl needing help there are a hundred proselytizers, salespeople, and scam artists.

My teenage daughters just default to not answering the door, unless they've ordered doordash etc. Same with phone calls from unknown callers; straight to voicemail.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by greedo »

da39a3ee wrote: post #173
causality0 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Creeping around and posting paranoid messages is silly but I wouldn't blame anyone for ignoring an unexpected knock. The ratio between people I want to engage with and people I don't is just too low. For every teenage girl needing help there are a hundred proselytizers, salespeople, and scam artists.

Ignoring an unexpected phone call is one thing, but you should never ignore a person knocking on your door. I’m afraid it sounds like you are exactly the sort of person that everyone else in this thread is complaining about and laughing about.

Why? For women, it can be a dangerous situation. I'm pretty comfortable since I'm a mountain of a man compared to the women who live in my house, but it's pretty dumb to say that everyone should answer the door.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by dylan604 »

wonderbore wrote: post #66
dylan604 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I begrudgingly use Nextdoor to make sure I don’t get put on blast for going on a run or ... And so what if you are? Not being there and put on blast affects you how? Being there and put on blast is different because? You can respond by using gasoline to put out the fire? Nextdoor is a great place to find out who you never want to associate in real life.

I don't know the dynamics of Nextdoor, but others complaining and organizing against me would scare me.

You say this as if people are not complaining and organizing against you now. Are you sure that's not actually happening and you're just not on the same chat they are? Let that fester...

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by greedo »

da39a3ee wrote: post #176
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

This is a large part of why I’m leaving the United States after 20 years and have never wanted to buy a house here. In most streets that I’ve seen, neighborly interactions are horrendous and weird, and people seem scared of each other and think that talking to a new person is somehow dangerous and to be avoided. Often the first time I’ve met neighbors it’s with them complaining about noise or something. But because o…

One of my immediate neighbors moved in about 4 years ago. He's had confrontations with me as well as four other homes, plus with a rando walking down the sidewalk. Everyone else gets along fine, but this guy has threatened physical altercations numerous times, and has had the police called on him at least once. Funny that he hasn't had a beef with the cop who lives on the block...

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by ctf1er »

notagoodidea wrote: post #144
kube-system wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are mild. In my nextdoor feed, there’s an elderly woman who angrily replies to every post telling them to stop emailing her. She apparently doesn’t know how to turn off notifications. People have tried to help but I guess she doesn’t read the replies either.

Never used this app but I suppose it is a neighborhood-thing? Nobody can simply swing by her home and explain it to her? And if she does not open her door, it is what is.

I can see it now, OP in handcuffs for casing the joint.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by tablespoon »

phil21 wrote: post #185
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

> we live in an incredibly safe wealthy suburb and these people “crept” to a window This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears. I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart,…

> This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears.

Did you poll them all?

> I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart, and the "bubble" it put so many citizens in I believe is the most harmful thing to happen to the US at least in the modern era.

No. The suburbs are fine, it's social media that will get us. It greatly amplifies the the voices of people who use it compulsively, and those people are often unhinged and driven by unreasonable paranoia, fear, anger, etc.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by tablespoon »

NonNefarious wrote: post #119
AlbertCory wrote: post #24

NextDoor: home of the dumbest people on the Internet. They must be proud of that. There are occasionally things I want to see on there: a new Costco going in where the OSH Hardware used to be, or whatnot. So I got the daily email digest. One email per day -- tolerable. Then it stopped coming. I wrote to Support, and their guy swore it was still being sent! I said "no, it's not. I looked in Spam and Trash." He swore a…

NextDoor is an incompetent mailing list. They don't even understand how a digest is supposed to work. I mean... FREE software had this down in the '90s.

> NextDoor is an incompetent mailing list. They don't even understand how a digest is supposed to work. I mean... FREE software had this down in the '90s.

Honestly, I think we'd all be better off if all social media was in digest form: queue up everyone's posts to be published next day at 9AM. That'd put a break on things, instead of having stuff snowball out of control.

However, it's probably been determined that it's best for the social media companies themselves for stuff to always snowball out of control, so non-digest it what we'll always get.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by phil21 »

tablespoon wrote: post #196
phil21 wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we live in an incredibly safe wealthy suburb and these people “crept” to a window This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears. I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart,…

> This is endemic in American society now. Everywhere I lived in the suburbs/exurbs I'd describe the vast majority of my neighbors to act exactly like that. Utter sheer fear of things that simply don't exist. And they vote on those fears. Did you poll them all? > I don't think American society survives the suburbs, personally. The social fabric it ripped apart, and the "bubble" it put so many citizens in I believe is…

> No. The suburbs are fine, it's social media that will get us.

Strong disagree. The decline of US civic life/institutions has been growing far before social media came on the scene. 13 year old me understood this fact just watching the Greatest Generation interact vs. the Boomers.

The fear-based culture of the suburbs existed since I was born, with local talk radio functioning as the NextDoor of the ye olde days giving every crank who saw someone suspicions a platform to rant on.

Social media certainly amped things up and accelerated this specific bit of our social decay. But it certainly didn't start it and the social fabric is breaking down in a manner far broader and earlier than what social media would explain.

Without talking about uninteresting outliers - we effectively McInfrastructured ourself into inhuman layouts designed to minimize unwanted social interaction. Fracturing communities and people the way we did with our construction patterns will end in tears. Humans are not built to only interact with those exactly like them on their own terms.

Those forced uncomfortable social interactions are absolutely key to humanity and personal growth and they have been nothing but reduced my entire life.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by krallja »

iamacyborg wrote: post #129
Macha wrote: post #122

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The one thing I miss since leaving Google for mail is the knowledge that I could use the report spam button on companies that made unsubscribing difficult and if enough users did this, it hurt their deliverability to most of their customers. On Fastmail, as far as I know, the spam filter model is only updated for my organisation, and even if they had a service wide filter taking user feedback, they are much smaller.

I’m not sure how fastmail handle it, but with hotmail Microsoft would automatically send a list unsubscribe request if you marked an email as spam. Any legitimate mailing platform will honour that request.

My favorite misfeature of Google mail is when you get a spam email sent to a Groups mailing list, mark it as Spam, and Google helpfully offers to “Unsubscribe & Mark as Spam.” Clicking this button removes you from your Google Group!

“You have been unsubscribed from engineers@work.example!”

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by Arrath »

ticviking wrote: post #167
snapetom wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh. Tell me about it. There was some poor lost delivery driver in a McHouse subdivision about near me. In one hand she was holding a plastic bag with food containers, and the other she was holding a phone. Two people posted video/photos of her clearly looking at house numbers. Both people posted "be on the lookout for this suspicious person casing the neighborhood" posts. Like, come on. How stupid do you have to be.

I mean if I was an enterprising criminal that's a whole lot less conspicuous than a white panel van with "Bob's plumbing" on the side.

Sure but why jump to nefarious conclusions when a simple explanation is right there or just take the situation at face value?
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