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Apple unveils all-new MacBook Air, supercharged by the new M2 chip

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For Air too: https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/ > Configurable to: 16GB or 24GB Store is updated too, 16GB upgrade is 200$ and 24GB is 400$.

Kind of ridiculous when you can get 64GB of laptop RAM for less than $400 easily. I still don't get why the M-series chips have such ridiculously low memory ceilings.

It’s DDR5 on-die ram. The M1 ultra is essentially 4 M1s with an on-die messaging fabric and separate ram for each compute “node”, iirc.

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I really do not understand this. The 14" Macbook Pro (M1 Max) does support up to three external displays. What was the problem with these new Macbooks to not support at least two displays..

The M1 Pro/Max have multiple GPUs, one in each CPU cluster.

Isn't it just based on amount of pixels needing to be pushed through? So if it can support a 6K external, it should be able to support multiple monitors as long as combined resolution doesn't exceed 6k?

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There is magsafe now, so you don't have to loose one for charging. Honestly it's easiest to just dump it into a USB C dock because they don't support more then one external monitor anyway.

From what i see on the store pages, only the 14in+ MBPs have the magsafe ports. The MBA and 13in MBP don’t. Point taken about the dock though, thanks.

The M2 MBA has magsafe, but the M2 13" MBP does not. Sure it's cheaper and quicker not to redesign a new chassis, but it puts the 13" MBP in an odd spot.

https://www.apple.com/macbook-air-m2/specs/

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Pricing looks excellent ($1200 to start); I was expecting a bigger bump. We'll see about the 16G price and availability.

The $999 M1 air was such a bargain, I was hoping they’d keep the price that low with the upgrade.

Possibly they’re moving to the iPhone model of keeping the last gen around as a lower price entry level device.

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I'm not too surprised to see a price increase of some sort, given inflation in general and increased fab costs in particular. Still, it's a shame they can no longer meet the $1k price point.

It sets a new precedent. Air was supposed to be cheapest, and they trying to stretch people into paying more. From fab perspective, they used the same and it becomes CHEAPER not more expensive to make it. The upgrades were very incremental too; so this is very much a money grab.

Are you advocating for a rework of our capitalistic global economy then? If so - just say that.

A capitalistic company gonna do capitalistic things - shocking. Shocking!

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Finally, Apple has seen the light! This is going to be an instabuy for many, including me. This feels like 2012 when Apple introduced Retina displays: Everything that's good about Apple in a single package, and unavailable at any price anywhere else. The nitpicky in me will complain about the lack of a glass touchpad, but I feel Apple is justified in leaving it as a Pro feature.

Displays are significantly better on the MBPs though: PPI, refresh rate.

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Cannot believe the updated base MBP has the old Touch Bar. Why can’t they give us back our function keys? EDIT: and is now the only laptop without MagSafe? There are more ports on the new MBA!

Is there no config available with no Touch Bar for the 13" pro? I would prefer the Air M2, honestly, but still only 1 external monitor support.

Mind blown.

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why does web development require so much memory and computing power?

You need 8GB just to run "modern" web applications, let alone develop them.

Tell me you haven’t used an M1 device without telling me.

People getting their hands on 8GB M1 MacBook Airs in the early days were saying the memory management and performance were making it snappier than the 16GB Intel MacBooks.

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I'm not too surprised to see a price increase of some sort, given inflation in general and increased fab costs in particular. Still, it's a shame they can no longer meet the $1k price point.

It sets a new precedent. Air was supposed to be cheapest, and they trying to stretch people into paying more. From fab perspective, they used the same and it becomes CHEAPER not more expensive to make it. The upgrades were very incremental too; so this is very much a money grab.

> From fab perspective, they used the same and it becomes CHEAPER not more expensive to make it.

They may have used the same five nanometer process, but that doesn't mean Apple's own costs went down. I don't know what their negotiations look like, but TSMC have stated that they'd be raising prices on already-established chip technology. In general, given supply issues for many of the components that go into making a laptop over the past few years, it would be a miracle for Apple's costs not to have risen.

Combine that with general increases in the price level, and 20% is probably not that far off.

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