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Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by rattray »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #66
atourgates wrote: post #21

"Sitting by Mark’s side for these 14 years has been the honor and privilege of a lifetime. [...] In the critical moments of my life, in the highest highs and in the depths of true lows, I have never had to turn to Mark, because he was already there." If this is an accurate reflection of her experience, I don't expect it's a side of Mark Zuckerberg most of us imagine exists.

When you saw only one set of tracking cookies, it was then that Mark Zuckerberg was carrying you.

For others who didn't get the reference, it's a Christian poem called "footprints in the sand":

> When you saw only one set of footprints,

> It was then that I carried you.

https://www.onlythebible.com/Poems/Footprints-in-the-Sand-Po...

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by oliwary »

haunter wrote: post #118
hervature wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel compelled to say that your second sentence is probably the funniest thing I've ever read on HN. It resonates very strongly with my belief that VR/Metaverse will continue to under deliver. What people want is an escape from reality. "Just like" Ready Player One or anything from a wide choice of science fiction novels. The problem is that these systems require a fundamental disconnect from reality. Not only do w…

>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…

As far as I can tell from the material Meta has released, they have an incredibly ambitious vision for the metaverse. Essentially, I believe they want to create glasses that you wear, that allow you to see other people in your space, wherever they are. So you could have a conversation with three friends in your living room, as if they were there, while they could be on different continents, making physical location irrelevant.

Now, I am not sure if they will get there, but they are investing heavily in the tech required (AR screen tech, SLAM, 3d body reconstruction etc), and even partial success could be enormous. Having spent a lot of time in VRChat, seeing people and interacting with them up close has something very powerful, even if if is just the beginning of the technology. I am very excited to see where it goes in any case.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by kilroy123 »

frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

I think Zuch is right about VR and the whole metaverse. I just think Meta (Facebook) won't be the ones to pull it off.

It'll be the _Next_ Facebook that does.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by nowherebeen »

seydor wrote: post #31
learndeeply wrote: post #29

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How is that related to Sheryl stepping down as COO at all?

She's abandoning the titanic

She is also at that age where she can retire very comfortably. It's a smart move by her. She can take a few years off to recharge and if the right opportunity comes, she will aim to be CEO of the next big thing. All she will ever be at FB is COO. Staying on this sinking Titanic any longer will only tarnish her business reputation.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by ethbr0 »

jeffwask wrote: post #135
echelon wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to check out "Metaverse Twitter". You're missing out on a lot of fascinating developments. The field is in its "90's internet phase" right now. The tech is still immature, but is rapidly growing in capability and ambition. Just like most people in the 90's had no idea how "internet" would be used, I think our ability to conceive of VR/AR/XR/metaverse is similarly myopic. I would give it a 10-15 year timeline…

I 100% believe in VR/XR/AR just not one driven by Meta. Edit: To be clear, IMO most disruptive technologies are not driven by established mega-corporations.

Gmail?

iPhone?

Facebook Mobile?

(And earlier, Bell/IBM/Oracle)

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by jjfoooo5 »

threeseed wrote: post #134
oldstrangers wrote: post #58

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Facebook was always doomed for failure, just like every social platform that came before it. The pivot should've happened years ago with a focus on Instagram and content creation (their shot at streaming was at least in the right direction). At this point, Facebook has simply waited entirely too long, and the likelihood of any pivot working for a company of their size is basically nonexistent.

a) Facebook is not doomed for failure. Their audience just got older and rather than abandon them they acquired companies more suited to younger generations e.g. Instagram, Oculus instead. And it's a strategy that has unquestionably worked. b) Facebook isn't really pivoting to metaverse any more than Apple is pivoting to services. It's an additional revenue stream alongside their existing ones which are still very he…

> Their audience just got older and rather than abandon them they acquired companies more suited to younger generations e.g. Instagram, Oculus instead.

This strategy has run it's course. Regulators are keen to weaken FB and will obstruct further acquisitions. Acquisition targets know they can beat FB in the long run and will no longer agree to be purchased.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by phaedrus »

ynx wrote: post #180
frisco wrote: post #25

I increasingly believe that Facebook’s pivot to Meta will end up going down as one of the biggest misses in the history of business. The metaverse is a real idea yes - but strapping a phone to your face and walking through your coffee table isn’t it. Especially not with a mediocre centralized FB owned “virtual world” where they inflict heavy taxes and content moderation. Facebook has neglected its core businesses for…

My money is on this comment aging poorly. Not because there shouldn't be legitimate concerns about VR, but because it's pointing to Facebook execution fail as the only thing that matters to the success of the metaverse, and it's expecting that the timeline should have been further along by now. Facebook has always built mediocre products. Its strength is in acquiring or copying good ones, and then jacking the interna…

Re: comment aging poorly - somewhere on this site there's a really old comment of mine saying I couldn't believe Facebook didn't accept the Microsoft buy-out offer. I correctly predicted the then-soon coming backlash against Facebook and that they would become "uncool", but I failed to predict that that wouldn't impede Facebook much as a business nor lead to the mass exodus of users.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by stareatgoats »

graycat wrote: post #159

What are the secrets to how they made 3 billion people so happy to be users of Facebook (Meta)? Or, how the heck, 14 years ago, or 10 years ago, or even 5 years ago, could anyone have predicted the 3 billion people? Astounding. Any ideas how to understand that?

The time for an online people-directory was ripe. There can only be one such (for normal people), and Facebook made some fortuitous strategic decisions early on (minimize ads, real name policy, target university students, and more). Once Facebook achieved critical mass then they just had to avoid silly mistakes in order to succeed.

Re: Sheryl Sandberg stepping down as Facebook COO

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Post by chaostheory »

haunter wrote: post #118
hervature wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel compelled to say that your second sentence is probably the funniest thing I've ever read on HN. It resonates very strongly with my belief that VR/Metaverse will continue to under deliver. What people want is an escape from reality. "Just like" Ready Player One or anything from a wide choice of science fiction novels. The problem is that these systems require a fundamental disconnect from reality. Not only do w…

>What people want is an escape from reality. I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse. Like it's on mobile? That's all? Peak WoW _was_ a social network something Zuck is dreaming about (and that's while you also have to pay a monthly sub). I've read around and some people say that the difference people can _create content_ in Metaverse but... sandbox MMOs are also a thing for a long t…

> I still don't understand what's the difference between MMOs and Metaverse.

You actually have to try VR to better understand. Google Cardboard doesn’t count

Rec Room and VR chat are good places to start

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