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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by HWR_14 »

johntb86 wrote: post #106
ALittleLight wrote: post #23

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I find the idea that you shouldn't offend people odd and pretty recent. For example, when I was growing up, my mother would say "We have a G rated household." Meaning: in our household we could not watch any movies or TV shows that would not be rated G. As you might imagine, Netflix hosts lots of content that my parents would find offensive. Likewise, religious people might find pro-atheist content on Netflix offensi…

We used to have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority and relatively universal radio/tv enforcement of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words , so there was a time (the 30s-60s) when the impulse was to censor everything to the lowest common denominator. It's not that recent a phenomenon.

It's worth noticing that the FCC regulations were aimed at broadcasts when children were up (6am-10pm), in an effort to protect kids, not adults. Also, those regulations existed on the limited resource of public airwaves. There is no reason you couldn't start the Hardcore Porn Cable Network other than it would flop. There is no reason to use time-based filtering anymore, so making non-G rated content available 24/7 is no longer an issue.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by jchw »

thomasfedb wrote: post #171
jchw wrote: post #160

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Hopefully it was accidental and not a sleight of hand, but I hope you realize you pivoted a statement about the trans activists being pushed back against (that they are “deluded”) to being about trans people as a whole. I feel like this kind of pivot happens so often in bad faith that people now do it subconsciously and not even necessarily in bad faith but simply out of habit. Similarly, (but not necessarily in the…

Fixed! Yep, that was a slightly uncharitable reading of the parent post I accept.

It seems like your uncharitable reading was the one that actually intended, which is unfortunate. I guess that’s the perils of assuming good faith.

I do think it is good to be precise here, though. The human brain really seems to like viewing groups of people as hiveminds.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by ok_dad »

zionic wrote: post #150

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Why would you be opposed to individuals choosing to live as they will? Suppose I was trans, why would you be scared of or hate me knowing nothing else? I’m not trans, but I don’t get the hate, trans people literally don’t affect you a bit.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by kortilla »

sidlls wrote: post #78
rossdavidh wrote: post #38

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Quite possibly, but if you had a labor shortage you would waste your time managing the prima-donnas for lack of alternatives. If you're about to do layoffs anyway, no need.

What labor shortage? In software engineering or other organizations? It's certainly not the former, at least not for companies of any notability (e.g. Netflix). I work for a well-known company, not as big as FAANG but well on its way and at least as big as any other major tech company in the news. Our engineering shortage is due to the artificial bar we set for hiring. Our recruiters each have dozens of resumes and a…

> There's a shortage of engineers that don't meet some incredibly stupid, ego-driven arbitrary gate-keeping policies.

I suggest you hire people who don’t meet the bar and see what happens. The reason your recruiters have dozens of resumes to sift through is because software engineers make bank and that’s not a secret. Most of those resumes will be people who don’t even understand what software engineering really entails and the extent of their experience will be editing a vb macro and taking an online Python course.

> Far less than 1% of these ever make it to a tech screen, and I think the rate of our panel interviews is in the low double-digit percent of that figure.

The majority of people who get rejected at this phase just nearly literally can’t program. I’m an engineering manager so I sit on on-sites once or twice a week and people with long careers that look good on resumes end up not being able to squeeze out trivial code because they haven’t actually programmed for 5+ years.

> There isn't an engineering shortage.

There absolutely is. You’re right that there isn’t a shortage of people who want the paycheck though.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by HWR_14 »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

> the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do.

I want him to stop doing trans jokes because he's not good at them. They aren't funny. As far as I can tell, they are attempts at cheap shock humor that might make sense for a new comedian to try to get some headlines, but not something someone with fame and talent should have to stoop to.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by thomasfedb »

rendall wrote: post #141
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #92

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> if you’re not trans you may not understand transphobia very well but it’s similar to white people saying they don’t think something is racist This is just a terrible, terrible argument, that leads to a continual ratcheting up and broadening of the definition of "transphobia". Transphobia should mean only "fear or hatred of trans people". What it comes to mean, however: questioning self-identification, questioning t…

Would be reasonable to expand that to "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against trans people". Hate is a pretty high bar perhaps?

The etymology of the -isms and the -phobias is unfortunate. But the -phobias are not really about fear.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by devwastaken »

okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

The Chapelle special acts opposite from its criticism. People are already generally discriminatory to the idea of trans. Chapelle brings this to the front, and makes a number of compelling arguments for why it's "real". Yes, he makes a number of poor arguments about the trans "community" (it's not one community), but if he were to be on stage talking up everything trans nobody is going to listen. People can have opinions without being evil.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by HWR_14 »

mgh2 wrote: post #190
HWR_14 wrote: post #181

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> Snowpiercer So your example of woke propaganda is content made for other services that Netflix later acquired non-exclusive rights to? > after the main plot focused on maintaining a lie, not discovering a truth (conventional screenwriting) I have no idea what this means. I followed your reddit link thinking maybe it would explain what you're talking about, but "snow" appears nowhere on the page.

The series overthrows a lie, but supplants it and feeds another one. Screenwriting is complicated, but if you want to know more details focus on the "midpoint", where the truth/thesis is stated. Essentially movies or series are sort of discovery tools to reveal an audience a certain truth - there is no point on being consistently lied to... https://trendguardian.medium.com/anatomy-of-great-movies-bd9...

Snowpiercer (the TV show) was made by TNT, and is available on Netflix and HBO (at the very least). Why focus on popular content they recently purchased as an example? It's really weak.

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Post by ipspam »

aeturnum wrote: post #125
okareaman wrote: post #35

I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

> I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. You say you're part of several vulnerable populations, but you don't ask the world to "accommodate" you - but the complains trans people have about Chappelle are not about 'making their lives easier.' Where transphobia (or any prejudicial viewpoint) comes into play is refusing to take vulnerable populations' viewpoints seriously. When trans people poin…

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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by tomjen3 »

joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

I canceled over the recent price hike, but I think happened was that Netflix got too good analytics, so while their scripts all hit the good points, it feels very bland.

Then of course the classic stuff they use is classic because it is good, so the average will go down as they no longer have access to it.

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