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Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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Yep. I imagine Twitter has a employee base with a very strong activist streak. I'm sure some of them wouldn't mind martyring themselves to make a virtuous statement.

only because the job market is so good.

Substack made it quite clear: https://twitter.com/lulumeservey/status/1511376638487019524?...

Personally, I think this is great. Leave your activism at home and don't bring that to work.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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This is most likely the correct answer. I doubt there is a single piece of code or algorithm that controls all of twitter. From my limited perspective it's just a catch phrase to simplify what is likely tens of thousands of lines of code.

Well, that's an algorithm. If you have to draw a diagram showing how edge cache nodes affect a user's results based on whether or not they signed in from New York or Phoenix, or if the downtime of a cluster affects the relevance rankings of tweets for a photography enthusiast, then guess what... That's an algorithm.

I think it is unfortunate that "the algorithm" has become the popularized phrase for the thing, though. Yes, clearly an algorithm which evaluates the entire state of the universe and uses that as an input is still an algorithm. But it is also clearly not what people are looking for.

I'm pretty sure people expect to be able look at The Algorithm and find the part that is trying to destroy . I bet whatever we see will lean more toward "big dumb pile of A/B tests."

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You forgot the gigantic amount of human intervention required to unperson people who tweet against Twitter‘s political interests

What does "unperson" mean?

it comes from Orwell's 1984 - someone who has been removed from all records/books/photographs and killed. I don't think the kill part applies here.

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Of course it doesn't make sense. I think it's just a dog whistle to the people who believe google have a guy in a room somewhere turning the "conservative search results" lever down a notch during elections.

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> turning the "conservative search results" lever It may not have been algorithmic, but it definitely happened.

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Source needed, plenty of liberal disinformation gets into search results as well and all kind of spammy SEO bullshit. Google search results have been getting shittier across the board is my intuition on this, censorship is less relevant.

IMO they just stopped caring about accuracy along time ago and have shifted into "engagement" and recommendation based results instead of accurate ones. Now when you search for something and very few results come back or they think your search terms should be something else, your given a shitty recommendation instead of what you actually searched for.

Re: twitter/the-algorithm

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post #78

Seems weird to start as a non-private repo until there's some content. Also bit of an unusual name. Can't tell if this is internal trolling or the future

The Twitter board has unanimously approved Musk's purchase, pending approval by stockholders, and Musk has stated that once he owns the company they will open source the "algorithms" for transparency. So not a troll, but yes it is odd to put up an empty repo, and announce the repo before there is anything in it.

Seems like a perfect troll/joke, especially given everything.

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I don't believe the point was ever to convey an complete understanding of the system, but to allow for the identification of "red flags": Specific functions that would be deemed controversial or counter to equal opportunity speech.

Is the idea somewhere in the-algorithm there's a function called `derankGOPMembers()`? Twitter's been pretty transparent in how it "deranks" certain accounts [1]. What more would come from opening the code that certainly not include the actual database of "no no terms" (if you were to believe that exists)? [1] https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2022/our-ongoi...

take a look at the Twitch leak sometime. There was a hard-coded list of bad words (largely racial epithets & other 4chan constructions). Presumably there is a way to create some kind of config file to penalize "bad users" of Twitter, I know these things existed in other orgs I've worked at

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I've worked on very large scale recommendation systems at a FAANG. If Twitter's system resembles anything like ours, the concept of publishing or open sourcing "the algorithm" doesn't make sense. Even if we were to open source all associated code and publish all related documents it would be very difficult to make sense of the entire system. That is precisely why companies such as Twitter A/B test the hell out of eve…

Of course it doesn't make sense. I think it's just a dog whistle to the people who believe google have a guy in a room somewhere turning the "conservative search results" lever down a notch during elections.

It's not a dog whistle, it's just a simplification because it's easier to say "the algorithm" than describing the system. Moreover, this nomenclature was mainstreamed by left-wing concern about "racist algorithms", especially in law enforcement, so it's not a partisan phrase at all.
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