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Reminds me of when GitHub stopped using "master" for the default branch because it was somehow offensive.
My opinion: `main` is better. It's shorter, it's more descriptive, and costs nothing to remove something someone might find offensive. It's pretty much an all around win.
Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#192In the article they use the example of "Motherboard" and "Landlord" and seem to suggest that these are areas where the Google AI is making mistakes or being overly strict. As a Google employee expressing my own opinion and observations of company culture, I can say that these are 100% not mistakes. Many Google employees are just so out of touch with the real world that they believe it is the duty of Google Docs to ch…
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31086310&p=3#31087238
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
The elites of America use "inclusivity" and race as bait to distract from the very issues you describe. Notice how we, as a society, spent relatively little time discussing the 2008 Mortgage Crisis and Occupy Wall Street. Meanwhile news outlets have been beating the "inclusivity" / race / gender drum for _years_. Time to wake up, folks.
What? The 2008 Mortgage Crisis was the biggest news story for at least a year. Comparing that to "inclusivity" is also strange because inclusivity is not an event. A single event has a natural decay of relevance, the further into the past it gets.
It was an event that absolutely decimated MANY people in America financially. And for many of those people, their only fault in the whole thing was, I guess, being ignorant enough to be taken advantage of.
We spend a lot more time discussing things that are a lot more irrelevant than that.
> Comparing that to "inclusivity" is also strange because inclusivity is not an event. A single event has a natural decay of relevance, the further into the past it gets.
OK, then instead compare the general theme of the 2008 Mortgage Crisis / Occupy Wall Street. Specifically: how much time do we spend talking about a small group of powerful elites pulling the financial strings in this country? And how does that compare to how much we talk about "inclusivity"?
The money and power concentrated into the hands of relatively few is an issue that is _several_ orders of magnitude larger than the "inclusivity" stuff we're fed much more often.
That's not a mere coincidence.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#194I can't even properly describe how angry this makes me.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reminds me of when GitHub stopped using "master" for the default branch because it was somehow offensive.
My opinion: `main` is better. It's shorter, it's more descriptive, and costs nothing to remove something someone might find offensive. It's pretty much an all around win.
"Why does my git say main and not master? Did I break it?"
"Why cant I push to master like the 100x tutorials show? I get errors!"
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#196I've been privy to people trying to ban words like "whitelabel" at my company. Thankfully, management & executives at my company never stood for that BS so I still get to use whitelist & blacklist in documentation, and don't worry about those non-issues get in the way of me actually doing work. Google might be too far gone, and working with those people would be so exhausting that it's actually stopped me from applyi…
>"My advice? Hit them where it hurts & vote with your feet. Google's not the top payer anymore, so just leave. " In principle I agree but I feel like level headed folks choosing to leave only makes the echo chamber even worse. And sadly, I don't think Google as a company will suffer much of a downside because they're so big.
As the share of ideologically-driven people rises, capacity to solve problems and create valuable stuff decreases. The organization will die inevitably.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#197One of the reasons I left google is that their "content moderation team" (the folks who make you take down wrongthink memes) is so far out of touch, that somebody had to explain to them there are people in the world who are discriminated against, but aren't black. They simply didn't know that was the case! And if that's the people who are moderating content... I said motherboard all the time in meetings and chats, ne…
One of the challenges with moderation teams like that or similar is that the folks who REALLY want to do that job .. are the folks who absolutely should NOT be doing it.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#198One of the reasons I left google is that their "content moderation team" (the folks who make you take down wrongthink memes) is so far out of touch, that somebody had to explain to them there are people in the world who are discriminated against, but aren't black. They simply didn't know that was the case! And if that's the people who are moderating content... I said motherboard all the time in meetings and chats, ne…
I wouldn't have believed you that there are people like this, but a few minutes after i read your comment, i saw replies (requires showdead) to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31123102 that said men cannot be discrimated against...
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are lumping all progressive people together. You also assume they are female. Why?
Aren't we supposed to use female pronouns when we're speaking generally now? It used to be male, but I know that's long gone.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#200In the article they use the example of "Motherboard" and "Landlord" and seem to suggest that these are areas where the Google AI is making mistakes or being overly strict. As a Google employee expressing my own opinion and observations of company culture, I can say that these are 100% not mistakes. Many Google employees are just so out of touch with the real world that they believe it is the duty of Google Docs to ch…
It's frantic activity to avoid looking in the mirror. Making themselves busy fixing something massive and intractable to avoid having to think about the actionable items closer to home.