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Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Post by throw10920 »

vmception wrote: post #17

The original tweet was asking for "any future of python in web3 domain? specific in @ethereum @solana" Web3.js - the 7 year old library for communicating with any EVM has an actively maintained and fully featured python version. Solana.py is available for the Solana ecosystem These libraries typically make it very easy to connect to the nearest node, which you can treat as pay-once-read-forever compute instances. Whe…

> These libraries typically make it very easy to connect to the nearest node, which you can treat as pay-once-read-forever compute instances. Where reading and and all bandwidth is free.

> You can completely ignore the cringy ideology if you prefer to and just accept that people are willing to store your crap for free forever.

These are extremely strong and unusual claims. Computers and storage and bandwidth and power all cost money. Very very few things in life are free - even things that you might think of as such, such as libraries, which are funded or subsidized through other means. "people are willing to store your crap for free forever" is so hard to believe as to almost sound like satire.

Please provide justification for these claims.

Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Post by nathias »

jrockway wrote: post #49

Web3 makes a lot of sense to me. The people that got into Bitcoin early are now out and ridiculously rich. Other people also wanted to get rich, but that exact opportunity feels like it passed (still holding out for my $80 invested in Bitcoin to be worth >$100,000, but I got in kind of late), so people started making their own coins in the hopes of repeating the process. That had mixed success, Etherium (and maybe Do…

are you implying people get rich from doing actual work?

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Post by paxys »

dekhn wrote: post #3

My question is why Y Combinator funded anything related to web3 and why it seems to defend these ideas when they are attacked on HN.

web3 is a gold rush. It doesn't matter if it succeeds or not, you still win by selling shovels. That's what all web3 companies and web3 investors are ultimately doing.

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vmception wrote: post #17

The original tweet was asking for "any future of python in web3 domain? specific in @ethereum @solana" Web3.js - the 7 year old library for communicating with any EVM has an actively maintained and fully featured python version. Solana.py is available for the Solana ecosystem These libraries typically make it very easy to connect to the nearest node, which you can treat as pay-once-read-forever compute instances. Whe…

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Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Post by cynusx »

sprague wrote: post #9

The interesting thing about crypto to me is how there seems to be a deep divide among very smart people, some who think it's the greatest thing ever and some who think it's a fraud. I can't remember when there's ever been such a Bigendian-scale dispute in technology before. Can you?

It mostly comes down to whether you trust in democratic institutions or not and whether you think it's a good idea to have markets operate outside the control and supervision of regulators and an enforceable rule of law.

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Post by kevingadd »

gfodor wrote: post #167
ceejayoz wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bug part comes in when someone stuffs a few child porn images into the chain, making mere possession of a full node carry jail time in the US. Even better, due to strict liability, "I didn't know" or "It's not mine" aren't valid defenses. I wouldn't want to have to tell a judge "I can't remove it" in a libel proceeding, either.

That’s a feature, since it will force society to resolve a variety of incoherent laws.

Since when does the government willingly just throw out a bunch of laws because some techies put together a new algorithm?

If the government decides that your crypto is a Munition or Child Porn, you're going to need a lot to convince them otherwise, and you're probably going to spend time in jail while waiting for your lawyers to deal with it.

Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Post by ceejayoz »

gfodor wrote: post #167
ceejayoz wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bug part comes in when someone stuffs a few child porn images into the chain, making mere possession of a full node carry jail time in the US. Even better, due to strict liability, "I didn't know" or "It's not mine" aren't valid defenses. I wouldn't want to have to tell a judge "I can't remove it" in a libel proceeding, either.

That’s a feature, since it will force society to resolve a variety of incoherent laws.

Is this your first encounter with society?
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