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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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> It might be useful to explore the less savoury aspects of Aboriginal culture Could you please share some links? What I read did not justify the genocide and centuries of abuse, but that's probably because my sources are biased, right? On another note: it's hard to believe people can just swing by and start throwing insults and making degrading assumptions about others that they have never met and only know from 2 p…

Please see my other reply. There's no shortage of shocking accounts, you only need to want to find them.

I'm surprised that you perceived it as insulting. Your comment sounded like someone demoralised and self-loathing based on your race and heritage; it's a reminder to be conscious of attempts to manipulate your identity in this way, and suspicious of the perpetrators.

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> It’s a very top down company and the lower tier folks aren’t necessarily encouraged to question things, but more of a “do as I say”. Asking as someone who has 0 experience with either, but this is how I’ve heard Apple works too? If so, why is Apple doing well while Samsung is not?

Apple has had significant hardware missteps too, such as the butterfly keyboard. Presumably some executive ordered "make it thinner" and did not accept any pushback!

On the other hand, Apple is very good at reverting their mistakes and pretending they never happened. Who remembers the single button mouse, hockey puck mouse, iPod dock connector, emojibar without physical esc key, USB-C as the only connector and others?

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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As a Samsung employee, I've been continuously being disappointed by the company culture. Recently, the company introduced a new policy that prohibits phone usage while walking inside the company building, due to "safety concerns". Samsung employed ~20 safety guards to supervise and monitor phone usage throughout the campus and if you're caught by them, you will be warned. If you are caughted twice, your team lead wil…

2 things here: 1. use a headphone, it is easier, it allows you to walk safer and with a better body posture and 2. my apology for such an incident is "it will not happen again, 'cause I am leaving". I understand and obey safety rules, but not random rules companies can pull any moment in time.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Dude, your argument is “yeah, but what if the Aboriginal Australians actually deserved to be ground into dust”?? The hell?

My argument is that few people are aware of how barbaric many aspects of Aboriginal culture were. This was not some flawless society to be fawned over and emulated, as modern woke scholars might have you believe, this was a culture rife with violence, rape, torture and cannibalism. Only last week I read a primary account from a settler describing an Aboriginal practice where a stick would be tipped with a various mak…

Tell me you know nothing of colonization without telling me you know nothing about colonization. Massive massacres of unarmed people across the entire expanse of the empire, raping of children ‘round the world, deliberately slow torture as punishment before death, the whole gamut of sick and depraved actions, every bit as cruel and barbaric as anything you can claim against the aborigine, carried out by your “rescuing” white saviour-invaders. Your justification for destroying the aboriginal culture is built on a mountain of pain and torture and your own abysmal ignorance of history.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Apple has had significant hardware missteps too, such as the butterfly keyboard. Presumably some executive ordered "make it thinner" and did not accept any pushback!

That executive's name was Jonathan Ive, and he should have owned his mistake.

They pushed him out(unofficially from what I heard)...the guy behind the iMac, iPod, iPhone and many other iconic devices. I'd gather that he has been forced to own the mistake.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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My argument is that few people are aware of how barbaric many aspects of Aboriginal culture were. This was not some flawless society to be fawned over and emulated, as modern woke scholars might have you believe, this was a culture rife with violence, rape, torture and cannibalism. Only last week I read a primary account from a settler describing an Aboriginal practice where a stick would be tipped with a various mak…

Tell me you know nothing of colonization without telling me you know nothing about colonization. Massive massacres of unarmed people across the entire expanse of the empire, raping of children ‘round the world, deliberately slow torture as punishment before death, the whole gamut of sick and depraved actions, every bit as cruel and barbaric as anything you can claim against the aborigine, carried out by your “rescuin…

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Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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There hasn’t been 5000 years of any culture tbh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt Co-opted first by Alexander, then Caesar. Later Napoleon also dropped by ... Seems to have slipped everybody's mind here, strangely.

The implication here is that Modern Egypt and Ancient Egypt are the same culture, which isn’t true by any real definition since as you mentioned Egyptian culture was Hellenized centuries before the Romans showed up (and semi-Persianized centuries prior to that.)

This is like claiming the Islamic Republic of Iran is the same culture as ancient Persia.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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> It’s a very top down company and the lower tier folks aren’t necessarily encouraged to question things, but more of a “do as I say”. Asking as someone who has 0 experience with either, but this is how I’ve heard Apple works too? If so, why is Apple doing well while Samsung is not?

That’s not at all the impression I get from interviews and reports by former Apple employees (0)(1). They almost always have huge respect for the execs they worked for. Bear in mind all the Apple execs for engineering groups are themselves engineers. It’s a highly disciplined and focused organisation, but that’s not the same thing as top down and good engineering is highly prized. Take Steve Jobs. He was infamous for…

Steve Jobs is an aberration. I wouldn’t count on anything related to him being true now that he’s gone.

I had a friend that was interviewing with Apple. Apparently the orgs are so siloed that the teams that wanted him didn’t know about each other. It appears to be a very rigid sort of organization.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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As a Samsung employee, I've been continuously being disappointed by the company culture. Recently, the company introduced a new policy that prohibits phone usage while walking inside the company building, due to "safety concerns". Samsung employed ~20 safety guards to supervise and monitor phone usage throughout the campus and if you're caught by them, you will be warned. If you are caughted twice, your team lead wil…

A Samsung employee in one of the overseas research centers. I'm not sure about this at all. The most that is restricted is one cannot shoot pictures - either camera lens gets a cover (paper sticker) or the camera is blocked using MDM.

This is practice in many companies and I hear at Apple it is even more restrictive at certain places.

Not able to use phone I never heard or experienced. We regularly test out apps in phone, test out devices (non test ones), we test competition ones, etc. And when one can get on a Zoom or Team's call, what use is restricting phone usage.

Re: Samsung Electronics cultural issues causing disasters in foundry, LSI, DRAM

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Dude, your argument is “yeah, but what if the Aboriginal Australians actually deserved to be ground into dust”?? The hell?

My argument is that few people are aware of how barbaric many aspects of Aboriginal culture were. This was not some flawless society to be fawned over and emulated, as modern woke scholars might have you believe, this was a culture rife with violence, rape, torture and cannibalism. Only last week I read a primary account from a settler describing an Aboriginal practice where a stick would be tipped with a various mak…

> Only last week I read a primary account from a settler describing an [graphic depiction of allegedly institutionalized violence used for ritualistic, magical or religious purposes].

You know, I also read quite a few primary accounts of how the suspected witches were "convinced" to admit their "guilt" in Europe and later in North America. You can find similar examples everywhere - on every continent, in every culture. Humans are violent beasts by nature, there's really nothing shocking about that. And in terms of time-frames - the "settlers" (scare quotes because if they were settlers, then Putin's soldiers in Ukraine would be, too) were not strangers to torture, rape, and killing, both on societal and personal levels. Did they all get banished for non-violent crimes? Do you happen to know when the last European hand was chopped off for stealing?

Then there's an issue of how believable the account itself is. I'm not saying it's impossible for such a ritual to have been performed, but I'm skeptical: how was the settler allowed to witness the ceremony? How was he able to understand the meaning of it ("weak to boost vitality")? What could he gain by relying just the truth versus embellishing the story? How many other people independently verified that such a ritual took place? Which group of Aboriginal people, exactly, performed that ritual, and what evidence there is that it was widespread among other groups?

> This was not some flawless society to be fawned over and emulated

Which society is flawless? Other than yours, I mean - whatever it is. I also didn't say anything about "emulating" that culture: I said we should study it and learn from it. That doesn't imply that we should learn the violent parts, unless you think there are no non-violent things to be learned from it?

> this was a culture rife with violence, rape, torture and cannibalism.

So? It's a culture that flourished in one of the least welcoming pieces of land on Earth, I'd say that doing away with a taboo of cannibalism - that I don't know the evidence for, but I'll take your word that it existed - could have well been a survival strategy. Are people wrong to try to survive? Also, wouldn't cannibalism have a very visible long-term health effects? Is there evidence of such effects?

And again: violence, rape, torture? That's shocking? Not at all. There are nations with nuclear bombs (or close to it) where gang-raping 12 years old girls is normal - and it happens right now, just like it has been happening since before we started walking upright.

> And so I put the question to you: If you had the means and will to rescue a child from this fate, by taking her away to be homed and schooled in a facility for this purpose, would you still - in all your cultured wisdom - instead choose to sit idly by and "let nature take its course"?

That's a false dichotomy. You can both save the girl from suffering and preserve her ties with her family. You can influence the culture without shattering it. You can ease the dependency on violence without adding more violence to the mix.

Reading your other comments, you seem to say that there was nothing worth preserving in the Aboriginal culture, and probably many other cultures around the world, so why bother inventing other ways of "civilizing" the "savages"? I happen to disagree - a culture that stood the test of time so well has to have interesting aspects to it. There are quite a few such aspects that we know now - but there's no telling how many of them we've irreversibly lost. Lost, just because the "settlers" didn't bother to think and fell back to what they knew best: violence and contempt. That's really nothing worthy of praise.

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