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Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Regarding your last point, while the ideas of Smalltalk and especially Lisp are influential, C may have just as much a claim to influence. Both Lisp and C are beautiful abstractions, the assembly languages of two abstract machines. While Lisp is powerful, C is such a profound success because the C abstract machine is very close to how computers actually work.

I keep hearing that computers are diverging from the kind of architecture C maps to, though. What of that?

See for example: http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/reduceron/

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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let's not compare both. Ah yes, the cognitive dissonance of an Apple fanboy developer who knows that C is far more important than anything SJ ever did yet can't reconcile that with their belief that SJ was god. Shame on Hacker News's audience that the front page isn't filled up with Dennis stories right now.

> C is far more important than anything SJ ever did That's like saying the paintbrush is far more important than the paintings of Michelangelo or da Vinci.

No, it's like saying the invention of the paintbrush is more important - and frankly, it is.

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

let's not compare both. Ah yes, the cognitive dissonance of an Apple fanboy developer who knows that C is far more important than anything SJ ever did yet can't reconcile that with their belief that SJ was god. Shame on Hacker News's audience that the front page isn't filled up with Dennis stories right now.

> C is far more important than anything SJ ever did That's like saying the paintbrush is far more important than the paintings of Michelangelo or da Vinci.

No, it isn't. Da Vinci used a paintbrush to paint. Steve Jobs did not use C to program, because he never wrote any code or even designed anything according to at least one verifiable source[1].

It's more like saying the paintbrush is more important than anything some really successful art dealer ever did.

http://reprog.wordpress.com/2010/09/06/steve-jobs-never-had-... (the book mentioned in the blog post, not the post itself)

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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Alan Turing would be 99 if he were alive today.

And he would have been if social conservatives hadn't destroyed him. god damn I fucking hate them.

Turing's destruction is more complicated than just prosecution by conservatives. He had access to extremely secure information over a period of years, this is what drew attention to his homosexuality.

When someone gets a security clearance, what do you think is looked for? Not many spies or people who eventually divulge information to an enemy country have explicit ties, eg. they aren't a member of a communist party. What is investigated are characteristics that would make a person likely to be influenced: debts, addictions, gambling problems or, as in Turing's case, some sort of socially unaccepted lifestyle.

Around the time of Turing's conviction, several other homosexuals had been convinced by the soviets to become double agents, eg. Anthony Blunt and Guy Burgess. Turing also made regular trips to the continent to pursue sexual relationships. This is what inspired the indecency charges. That's my understanding at least.

Please understand, what happened to Turing was terrible. No one deserves that fate. I really do wish he could have escaped somehow. That said I don't think the situation was as simple as social conservatives destroying people.

Re: Rob Pike: Dennis Ritchie has died

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There are several billion people using many billions of devices every day. From the code in your microwave to massive computing clusters, virtually all of our software can trace its ancestry back to this man's intellectual output. I'm eternally grateful for his life and contributions to humanity.

My question is if he didn't create a language like C, would someone else have? Was it such a leap from existing languages?

a) Maybe. b) Yes.
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