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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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As somebody from the first world who has had the experience of moderating Internet forums… free speech in the sense of “the government generally shouldn’t control people’s speech, with limited exceptions” is good and necessary. Free speech in the sense of “everybody should be forced to platform every idea” is silly IMO. Left alone user content rapidly devolves into the most low-effort salient content - flame wars, po…

This is a false dichotomy.

There are other ways to implement moderation that isn't censorship.

I've proposed "blocklists" before, where users could create different blocklists (e.g. "no vegans"), other users could subscribe to them, and there would be some default blocklists (e.g. "no porn" and "no gore") that people could also unsubscribe...

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

There's been limits on free speech in the US and other first world countries forever. Where we put those limits will always be up for debate, but I don't think it's realistic to ever expect no limits.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

This is a naive view. Twitter does not enable free speech for a single person on this planet. Every el single prison in the world who can access Twitter can also access any number of other ways to speak freely.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

Private companies are not the arbiters of free speech, and they should not be compelled by the government or anyone else to distribute views they don't like. This especially goes for businesses whose revenue models are based around advertising, where the financial incentives do not line up with the social benefit of their users.

I believe the proper solution here is social networks that are open, distributed, and federated. It is not for government or advertisers to decide what speech must, or must not, be discussed in the open.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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I don't have an opinion over the consequences for politics over this, I'm just excited over the potential shakedown of the social media landscape that I grew to despise. Musk is an activist, can make it or break it. He is absolutely right over its enormous potential, all the problems it has - as a business or ones it creates for the society - can be solved. Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial once yo…

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Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

#198

From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries don't know the value of free speech and often take it for granted. Sometimes even coming to such views as "free speech is dangerous" and that "we should limit free speech" (by blocking the views I don't like). Understand this: limits on free speech are far more dangerous to society than allowing fringe e…

From observing various internet forums, including this one, I noticed that people from the "first world" countries think Elon Musk actually cares about freedom of speech and isn’t just a bored billionaire throwing his weight around.

Re: Elon Musk makes $43B unsolicited bid to take Twitter private

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I don't have an opinion over the consequences for politics over this, I'm just excited over the potential shakedown of the social media landscape that I grew to despise. Musk is an activist, can make it or break it. He is absolutely right over its enormous potential, all the problems it has - as a business or ones it creates for the society - can be solved. Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial once yo…

> Free speech absolutism is possible and is beneficial once you ensure that someone is not gaming the system

This is unbelievably naive. It’s like saying “a perfectly lassie-faire economy is possible, if no one is greedy”.

Someone will ALWAYS be trying to game the system.

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