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Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

#192

My 9 year old watches TikTok, and I've got mixed feelings. My kid is really into videos of other kids telling jokes, making slime, doing puzzles, etc. Frankly I think that's better than the vapid dreck on Disney--and infinitely better than social media, which would just stoke the tweener social drama. (We allow TikTok but not any form of social media.) Obviously there is less age-appropriate content on there too. But…

Kids seem to be far more vulnerable to become addicted to video-based social media than text-based. I say this as a mid-30s person who saw how obssessed teens and 20-somethings were with Youtubers. For them, all they knew about video was from Youtube, so they accepted the lack of polish that an older person like could not.

I have distraction issues with doomscrolling text feeds, but none whatsoever w/ TT because I dont' find super short videos entertaining. But it's probably very different for those who're exposed to it from a young age.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West.

So, yeah, Facebook continues to be the single greatest threat to Western society outside of Russia. These are serious issues with serious consequences.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

#194

Gen-Z doesn't give a damn about Facebook, or Republicans.

Gen Z is the largest or second largest user group for Instagram, a wholly owned subsidiary of FB. Saying that X doesn't care about FB indicates ignorance of the simple fact that one is spending a lot of time reading what FB thinks you should be reading.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

#195

Serious question, for those with more experience than me “in the game” running big successful companies: are dirty tactics like this (and worse) par for the course and generally expected, and it’s sort of understood that the outsiders/general public are shielded from it? Or is it actually shocking? It often seems like there’s two “worlds” operating at the same time. In one, there’s outrage and indignation at this sor…

Given that the paper in question is owned by Bezos…

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #137

What is a "Republican strategy firm?" A consulting firm with the Republican party as one of their clients? What's the point of making "Republican" so prominent in the article? Is it just to use the negative connotation most WP readers have about the Republican party to malign Facebook a little more? It seems like we're just spectating an op-ed war, and discussing this article as if there's any meaning to it other tha…

> What's the point of making "Republican" so prominent in the article? Is it just to use the negative connotation most WP readers have about the Republican party to malign Facebook a little more? A person self identifies with a party that has questionable (/s) practices in a democracy and they’re being maligned. Jokes are funny because they have truth.

>a party that has questionable (/s) practices

If you don't see that in both predominant US parties, you probably aren't looking. Of course Facebook pays the Democratic Party millions a year to look the other way. Can't have good privacy laws, ya know.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/meta/totals?id=D000033563

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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post #193

In case you think this is some esoteric issue involving kids’ stuff — keep in mind that the founder of TikTok was one of the most balanced voices within China, who argued that the country needed to engage with the West in a healthier manner. Zuckerberg et al and their incessant lobbying for that TikTok ban basically vaporized that guy’s pull within China, which eliminated a super-valuable asset for the West. So, yeah…

> one of the most balanced voices within China

Except TikTok, like Facebook, is not available in China. The 抖音 platform cannot see posts from tiktok.

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

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I was wondering where did all these "I started with fresh account, randomly clicked, and found something awful" articles about TikTok came from. Now I know.

It was so puzzling, because my experience has been so different. TikTok is the most positive, large scale, social platform I've ever used. It has exposed me to disabled people's, LGBTQ, POV and all kinds of neat things I'd have never even thought of.

California forever, goodbye!

Re: Facebook paid Republican strategy firm to malign TikTok

#200

My 9 year old watches TikTok, and I've got mixed feelings. My kid is really into videos of other kids telling jokes, making slime, doing puzzles, etc. Frankly I think that's better than the vapid dreck on Disney--and infinitely better than social media, which would just stoke the tweener social drama. (We allow TikTok but not any form of social media.) Obviously there is less age-appropriate content on there too. But…

I'm interested to see that you don't count TikTok as social media. Does your 9yo have friends on TikTok? I sometimes see the younger crowd often follow each other on TikTok and make posts primarily intended for their friends. This seems a very different usage pattern from mostly watching strangers on the for you page. Maybe 9 is too young for that mode though.

She uses it more like YouTube. The algorithm does a good job of feeding her videos related to her interests: puzzles, slime, Pyramids, etc.
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