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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Slack is much better as a corporate chat app, but I’m not sure that’s necessarily good in the broader picture because I’m not sure you want to maximize chat engagement in a corporate setting. There are weird cultural effects to that, and paradoxically having a shittier app for that might get you the benefits of being able to chat with your coworkers and ask them questions without the weird social effects.

and if the team consists of remote workers?

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Don't forget Desktop Gadgets, Sidebar and the hardware auxiliary screen Windows SideShow.

StreamDeck 'sort of' offers some of what SideShow promised. And 3rd parties have stepped in for Gadgets.

This was during a time when gizmos like the Chumby existed, and had a lot of potential for being ambient information displays, but alas the market never took off. And now devices like the Echo Show still don't live up to the potential.

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post #103

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Wut? N900 was the best, most reliable, highest quality and most polished phone I have ever owned. It's not even close. How they f.ed that up is beyond me.

The big problem was just app support. Everyone was writing apps for Android and iOS and maybe Windows or Symbian, but that was about it. Since many of these apps aren't something you can re-create yourself (WhatsApp, banking apps, whatnot) so that hugely diminished its usefulness, especially since this is when everyone and their mother was using WhatsApp, which never made a Maemo app. This problem is even worse now.…

People write apps for platforms with the largest market shares, apple & droid. Not news. N900 never got the support to get market share. It could have though, the quality was there and they had a huge selling point. If it did the world would be a better place with better software on your phone and less spyware. Not what we got though, huh? We got Apple and Google in the race to who can smash the userbase harder with no meaningful alternative and fringe phones trying to catch up to where the 900 comfortably was a decade ago. Apple and Goog are both looking at each other and thinking "You guys doing that and actually getting away with it? Amazing! Well we'll just go even further!" And the only place where customers rights or welfare is ever even remotely served is where it happens to align with smashing a competitor and is absolutely incidental to their strategy beyond some marketing. It's nuts. The N900 was better in every single way, polish, stability everything. Got smashed by executive decision. You could build conspiracy theories around it if we didn't have such a rich history of total and complete incompetence to draw on and be a more likely explanation.

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> If they had made it an open platform and allowed users to install Linux, I believe it would have taken over the world. Didn't they, though? With Maemo and later Meego (though maybe I have that swapped)? As it turns out the developer power just isn't there. That's not to say that that wouldn't be the case now, but at least back then, it wasn't able to survive. I was so incredibly excited for my Nokia N900, but at th…

Wut? N900 was the best, most reliable, highest quality and most polished phone I have ever owned. It's not even close. How they f.ed that up is beyond me.

N900 was really cool device in many ways, but polished or reliable it definitely was not; when I had one, I tended to carry a feature phone along with it because N900 was so ridiculously buggy and unreliable.

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Yeah like: > Skype for Business Expiring in over 3 years, Skype for Business (formerly Microsoft Lync and Office Communicator) was an enterprise instant messaging software developed by Microsoft as part of the Microsoft Office suite. It was almost 18 years old. It’s still around because of a lengthy transition path Microsoft offers and they admit that and then start talking about it in the past tense…

It's kinda sad that they're killing SfB. Behind the scenes, it uses SIP and SDP for establishing calls - back in the day at $BigCo, we were developing a software suite for debugging SIP infrastructure, and Skype for Business was surprisingly easy to integrate. Shame that Teams switched to a proprietary Microsoft protocol now.

Trouter (Microsoft Teams routing software for video calls and voice calls) crashes and fails to parse SDPs every day, even from Teams clients. I swear it is the least reliable session border controller we interact with, every 2 weeks a new software version is rolled out and new things break while tickets about bugs we filed with Microsoft continue to go ignored.
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