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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Interestingly Zelensky might be easier to deepfake than other world leaders because there's more footage and a wider variety of facial expressions to train on due to his acting career

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For him the deep fakes will be used to make considerate and respectful comments, while the real videos will be the outrageous ones :-)

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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post #19

Interestingly Zelensky might be easier to deepfake than other world leaders because there's more footage and a wider variety of facial expressions to train on due to his acting career

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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#193

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I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the country and it’s nothing like the caricature you just mentioned. It is, though, safe, polite, and friendly. And people are happy to leave other people alone.

Living in rural America, where it is safe, and folks are polite and friendly and happy to leave you alone (if you're white), I have to say that doesn't mean people don't believe batsht crazy things. Because lots of them do. Or at least say they do, 'cause there is a big step between saying you believe something and actually acting like you do.

Believing batshit crazy things isn't unique to rural areas. In fact, I'd say it's more common in cities simply because there are more people there.

I know a woman who lives in Chicago who doesn't believe in dinosaurs. It's not a religious thing, it's just that dinosaurs don't fit into her mindset somehow.

I dated a woman in New York (native New Yorker) whose entire family believed that the moon landings were fake.

I know a guy in Houston who believes that drinking his own pee is helping him live longer.

Crazy is everywhere. It obeys no geographic, social, wealth, or political boundaries.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#194

In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...

Interesting! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_the_war_comes

Further down that rabbit hole: https://thestrategybridge.org/the-bridge/2017/9/20/trigger-h...

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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The right wing political machine made Hillary Clinton out to be the devil. They, correctly, anticipated her run for president after Obama, and spent years making her out to be the worst person in America before she even began campaigning. The result is many conservative circles are still obsessed with her even though she is relatively unimportant.

That demonizing started way before the 2016 lead-up; until Obama came into the foreground she was also a clear front-runner for the 2008 election, so the machine was targeting her even then. I've noted this before, but being in the public eye for too long tends to be really bad news for presidential hopefuls in the US (Biden being the exception that proves the rule in that he eked out a win against a wildly unpopular…

"Wildly unpopular"? Maybe in the corporate and media world, but even despite that, he nearly won re-election. You can credibly attribute plenty of negative characteristics to Trump, but "nobody likes him" isn't one of them.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Give it a couple of years and the tech will spread A LOT.

The tech is already good enough for anyone to make a convincing deepfake, I think, and especially state actors - or people with deep enough wallets - can perfect it. I mean some of the memes of e.g. Obama saying something he never did are convincing enough.

I think right now only a single-digit number of people in the world can produce a convincing fake. And while they could be working for the government, I don't think they do.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#197

In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...

An updated version of that section in the form of a booklet was distributed to every household a few years ago, the advice is mostly the same.

Stay Alert! Trust no one! Keep your laser handy!

(OK, that last one came from somewhere else).

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Here in the US we have street names and even monuments dedicated to slave owners and people who advocated so strongly for slavery they went to war with their own people. Does that mean the US, today, generally supports the institution of chattel slavery? No, that's absurd. Lots of people want those monuments removed and streets renamed, but that's apparently cancel culture. The only country I know of that has actuall…

But @paganel apparently thinks it’s totally okay to bomb that street while civilians are walking on it. Talk about priorities.

> But @paganel apparently thinks it’s totally okay to bomb

I didn't say that, way to go. Come on, this is HN, not some sub-reddit shithole.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#199
post #185

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That seems self-defeating via Streisand Effect or at least Cry Wolf effect. Most of the people who’d believe a video saying the opposite of what they’d expect is real have never been aware of deep fakes. And now thanks to this poor deepfake they are aware of deepfakes and are primed to question future videos, even if they seem real.

> And now thanks to this poor deepfake they are aware of deepfakes and are primed to question future videos, even if they seem real. They may also be primed to question real videos. Aka “flood the zone with shit”.

"flood the zone" makes it difficult to assess new information, so people fall back on their priors. That would be counterproductive for Russia rn, because the narrative is against them.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#200

The idea could also be to first post something obviously fake, in order to make everyone think, that their deep fake video tech is not addvanced enough to create really good fakes. Later they post something, where they put in maximum effort to make it seem real, having people think back to the previous fake and think: "Oh but this looks real and they are not able to produce better deep fakes than that other video."

We (Ukrainians) have been warned about upcoming deep-fakes, disinformation, ... since pretty much day 1.
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