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Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by solarmist »

naikrovek wrote: post #179
astrange wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your suggestion was tried for years and failed every time because it doesn’t work. HiDPI shipped because it was 2x or nothing. (Later there was 3x.) The reason Windows developers still think it might work is they have no taste and don’t care about localized UI, pixel cracks, or blurry bitmap controls.

nah, hidpi on Windows is fine if you know what you're doing as an application developer. it's those who haven't bothered to make the changes recommended or required that make windows hidpi support look worse than it is in single-monitor setups. multiple monitors on Windows with varying dpi scales is not great though, and probably can't be until some backwards compatibility promises are broken or expired.

>nah, hidpi on Windows is fine… Exactly, it’s fine.

Apple has never settled for “fine” either it’s great or it gets cuts at some point.

>if you know what you’re doing as an application developer. Apple also tends to avoid wading into footgun waters to keep quality (for 3rd party devs) as high as possible across the board.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by techpression »

ballenf wrote: post #140
techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Use the remote control technology in the latest MacOS. It will allow the keyboard and mouse from the Studio to control the laptop. Even more environmentally friendly than having an extra cable.

But that doesn't work for the display, only the input devices. What I want is what I have now, two devices connected to the same display.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by markkanof »

The purchase page seems really confusing compared to how they typically do things. Typically, when purchasing something like a Macbook, you select the base model and then some of the upgrades are listed at + $XXX.00. That combined with the fact that the XDR display stand cost so much, I thought they were charging and additional $1599 for the VESA adapter. I was momentarily absolutely furious until I realized that the VESA adapter is a no additional cost option.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by kitsunesoba »

chimen wrote: post #125
ThePhysicist wrote: post #121

I wish they wouldn't make me scroll through two pages of animated backgrounds just to see the actual monitor. That said if I would spend this much on a monitor I would prefer the Samsung Odyssey Neo, which has a 5K resolution on a curved 49' display with a 240 Hz refresh rate, HDR 2.000 and G-Sync/Freesync. I guess the color space coverage is not as good though, and it's not as bright at 420 nits, though that's more…

Toilet paper monitors. Can't be serious with that. Here's a good one: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-ultrasharp-40-curv...

The 300 nits brightness kills this model for me. With my desk sitting next to a window, even with indirect sunlight anything below 400-500 nits starts having usability issues. I could lower the shades but I'd much rather let the sunlight in.

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Post by nickpp »

pclark wrote: post #183

Can anyone help me understand how I'd connect this to a PC? Would I need a GPU with Thunderbolt 4 or does the motherboard need Thunderbolt 4 and the PC somehow magically utilises the GPU via that motherboard display anyway?

The question is if there is any PC video card able to connect to this display.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by bradlys »

dewey wrote: post #188
minimaxir wrote: post #10

Webcam and sound aside, the display specs seems very similar to the LG Ultrafine 5k released all the way back in 2017 for $1299: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HMUB2LL/A/lg-ultrafine-5k... The Studio Display is an additional $300.

Based on the reviews of the LG Ultrafine that extra $300 really are worth. Alone for not having a stand as shaky as the Ultrafine one.

For these types of displays - you shouldn't really ever be using the stand that it comes with anyway. Monitor arms are ubiquitous and known. They do much better job of holding a monitor than the stands that come with most monitors.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by aldanor »

jjcm wrote: post #98

Awesome to see them finally putting out almost consumer friendly pricing displays. Few things I'm disappointed about though: - 60hz. For this price point I'd expect higher. - Thunderbolt 3. Interesting that they didn't bump to 4, given the Mac Studio is Thunderbolt 4. This means you wont be able to daisy chain the displays. - Lack of size options. Would love to see more variety here. After moving to an ultrawide form…

Yea. Sad about the lack of ultrawide option, too. Once you get used to it, there's no way back.

Two 27'' displays is not an option since you can't center anything, so... three Studio displays side-to-side?

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Post by kitsunesoba »

gen220 wrote: post #136
techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Can you not use a thunderbolt switch? In my home office, I've got two monitors and a switch to flick input between a personal machine and a work machine.

Last I looked, Thunderbolt switches were prohibitively expensive and only made by oddball companies. My solution is a Thunderbolt dock (CalDigit TS3+/TS4+, ThinkPad Thunderbolt 4 Dock, etc) along with a TB cable for each machine that I swap the connection to the dock with as needed. Since it's a single cable swap, it's not much of an inconvenience.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by bradlys »

techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Is this not quite niche?

What about the environmental impact of adding extra ports that no one is going to use?

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