Venting doesn’t work • Hacker News Board

Re: Venting doesn’t work

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Post by dang » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 6:50 PM UTC

GauntletWizard wrote: post #152

bittercynic wrote: post #143

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I do not want to diminish the importance of your perspective in any way, only to add that some in the #1 camp are teetering on the brink of "able to take care of self" and not withholding help to be cruel, but because they think helping might pull them over the cliff, too. Wellness has big steps sometimes, and if you tumble down a step it may take a long time to get back up, and your ability to help yourself, and any…

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Re: Venting doesn’t work

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Post by digisign » Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 8:35 PM UTC

bob1029 wrote: post #139

digisign wrote: post #137

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Perhaps, but unfortunately there is not enough information to get even a toehold on an idea. Do people really go online to present a fake persona? Most embellish, and I bet some do, but does anyone else care enough to pay attention? For most folks I'd say no. If GP said, "politics" then I'd get the drift.

> Perhaps, but unfortunately there is not enough information to get even a toehold on an idea. Imagine some position you personally find to be controversial/wrong/stupid but that everyone else around you agrees with (or vice versa). In my view, understanding what my position is on some arbitrary matter does not further this conversation in any meaningful way.

The real question is probably, why were you "forcing yourself" to believe in things? Whole situation sounds contrived or perhaps not explained well.

Re: Venting doesn’t work

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Post by cplusplusfellow » Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 1:29 PM UTC

digisign wrote: post #192

bob1029 wrote: post #139

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> Perhaps, but unfortunately there is not enough information to get even a toehold on an idea. Imagine some position you personally find to be controversial/wrong/stupid but that everyone else around you agrees with (or vice versa). In my view, understanding what my position is on some arbitrary matter does not further this conversation in any meaningful way.

The real question is probably, why were you "forcing yourself" to believe in things? Whole situation sounds contrived or perhaps not explained well.

Perhaps you’re surrounded by open minded people who you can gracefully decline to agree with on every subject. Many of us live in areas where not holding status quo opinions is enough to lose your job. So I can see where folks would try to believe something despite cognitive dissonance with it.