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Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by mrtksn »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #168
mrtksn wrote: post #53

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It could be but they need to be primed for it already. How did the US not selling drones to Turkey made Turkey a drone superpower? Well, Turkey already had a large engineering talent pool and related industries, therefore US not selling drones to Turkey was an opportunity. Does Russia already have a talent base or flourishing industries for all the stuff they are being denied? I find it unlikely, it's a common proble…

Not so long ago, Russians used to have a population for being extraordinary programmers. Doesn't that still apply?

You can't program a Färgrik or the machinary that spits Färgrik into existence.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by delegate »

m_fayer wrote: post #178
2xpress wrote: post #137

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Maybe you got down-voted by pissed-off Russian men, but your prediction regarding what will happen in the Russian society is spot on. The problem with the alcoholism and prostitution over there has already been pretty bad, but now it will of course get much much worse. Unfortunately, so far in history Russia has only been a one huge long tragedy. Navalny gave a speech at his kangaroo trial that his wish is that Russi…

He's getting downvoted for the retrograde gender attitude. Even if he's making a valid point, casually using language like "men protecting their women" and "any man will..." makes me roll my eyes and reach for the downvote before I even realize what's happening.

It's nice that there are terms for any combination of words out there. But to get to the real point it's necessary to cut through the bs (reduce semantic complexity) and just say it like it is.

Yes, men protect their women and children during wars. Sounds raw and simple, but that is the truth. I advice you to think about it.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by twelve40 »

blackoil wrote: post #174
twelve40 wrote: post #134

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Might come as a surprise, but Boing and Airbus are not the only civil airplane manufacturers in the world.

Practically they are the only ones. While Chinese and Russian make some of their own they are still dependent on West for engine and other critical components.

Engines: MC-21 flew with a locally built PD-14 engine in 2020 (wikipedia). Work is underway on SSJ-New with a local PD-8 or a PD-14. There was a snag with composites, which were sanctioned by US a few years ago because of some other random bullshit, but now they are built locally as well.

> other critical components

Like what? This sounds a bit hand-wavy, what are those critical components, if you don't mind me asking?

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by SahAssar »

b3kart wrote: post #147
Klaster_1 wrote: post #101

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As one of Novaya backers, I voted for it to continue operations, even under the censorship. The Novaya team and their readers are bright people who can write and read between the lines, a working independent media of any form, not blocked by roskomnadzor, is more valuable than none. The alternative was to shut down and wait until the situation resolves. I admire their resolve.

I am conflicted about this. On one hand, people’s livelihoods are at stake, and one can argue some news is better than no news. On the other hand, by continuing reporting on events unrelated to war, are we not helping Putin’s regime to push the “it’s all fine, don’t worry about the war” agenda?

> one can argue some news is better than no news

The problem is that people expect (and rightly so) that the news is reporting what is important right now, so if one area is not being reported on it sends the message that it is not important. Censoring one story basically says that either it is not happening or that it is not important in the eyes of the journalists.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by cudgy »

sto_hristo wrote: post #143
aftergibson wrote: post #120

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Just like when the west stood up to the US Government and stopped the Iraq war? It's easy to point the finger when you're far from the reality.

Try the Vietnam proxy war. And any sensible and rational being with non-zero knowledge of Iraq and Saddam's transgressions against humanity should support the Iraq war which was all about toppling him. Since you're clearly not one of those, here's some homework to get you started: Halabja massacre, Kuwait invasion.

Word was Sadam killed 10,000 people during his reign, which is certainly abominable. US attack on Iraq killed over 10,000 people in several days

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by selfhoster11 »

mrtksn wrote: post #191
selfhoster11 wrote: post #168

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Not so long ago, Russians used to have a population for being extraordinary programmers. Doesn't that still apply?

You can't program a Färgrik or the machinary that spits Färgrik into existence.

I was responding to the question:

> Does Russia already have a talent base or flourishing industries for all the stuff they are being denied? (...) They used to have huge talent pool of all kinds during the Soviet times but that is no longer the case.

That's why I brought up programming. If the legendary Russian skills are still extant in that industry, then that's one example of a pool of talent that remained intact. Sure it won't help with a furniture crisis, but programming and IT skills are the core of a modern economy, so they will help with other things.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by vkou »

smcl wrote: post #158
twelve40 wrote: post #134

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Might come as a surprise, but Boing and Airbus are not the only civil airplane manufacturers in the world.

They're certainly not, but they're the biggest and the Russian airlines already own or lease a lot of Boeing and Airbus planes. Aeroflot is nearly all Airbus[0] and Rossiya[1] (largest operator of Russian-made Sukhoi planes) is around half Airbus, half Sukhoi. They could indeed just scrap these and buy a shiny new fleet of, say, Embraer jets but that would involve retraining pilots and support staff, not to mention a…

Fortunately for civilian Russian aviation, there are currently plenty of foreign-owned planes that just happen to be sitting on Russian airfields, that can't go anywhere, and are chock-full of spare parts.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by delusional »

esperent wrote: post #68
oezi wrote: post #13

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Sadly, it seems more russians are concerned about not getting a BILLY than standing up to Putin.

It's easy to point the finger when you're not the one facing the very real threat of 15 years in a Russian prison.

That's a fair point, but the state of their prisons and their political system is their responsibility, right?

I have a lot of compassion and empathy for the situation the Russian people are in right now, but they did make the system they are currently living in. If they want it to stop, they are going to have to stop it.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by perlgeek »

rr808 wrote: post #20

What I'm curious about all the sanctions is what if Russia changes? Say Putin quits or is killed and the replacement withdraws from Ukraine. Are we back on again?

I'm sure Ukraine would demand reparations, as well as getting Crimea back.

If Russia complied, and agreed to some international oversight (for example regarding their nuclear arsenal), I'm sure the rest of the world would happily take up trade again. Living in Germany, I see many people are quite upset about the high gas prices, and forgiving a repentant country AND profiting from trade would look very good for the government.

Re: Last Day of IKEA in Moscow

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Post by delusional »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #99
thih9 wrote: post #81

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Then again their neighbors have to live with things worse than jail.

Do you think that's going to stop when probably already over crowded Russian jails fill up with dissidents?

Do you not think it's matter at all? Is history already completely laid out and unchangeable? Is the Russian people without any agency in their own lives and the life of their nation?
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