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I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Some of them are really baffling. Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ian Edwards? Tim Ferris?

The Louis Theroux one really throws me off.

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Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…

So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.

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One of the ironic things here is that it’s pitted Spotify’s brand as a music company against their brand as a podcast company. For people originally drawn to Spotify as a music service the departure of even a few icons all of a sudden makes Apple Music very attractive.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day.

The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discovering new content.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I did a rough tally of the 70 removed episodes: Comedian: 45, Political Commentator/Media Personality: 8, Brian Redban: 5, Health/Fitness: 2, Scientist: 2, Author: 2, Musician: 1, Pornstar: 1, (MMA) Fight Companion: 1, Giorgio Tsoukalos, Kevin Smith, Cliffy B & Johnny Cristo (can't even figure out who these last two are)

Some of them are really baffling. Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ian Edwards? Tim Ferris?

Maybe they are having trouble paying their S3 bill

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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This is idiotic. I really respected Spotify for their position in the face of 'controversy.' I'm not a JRE listener, but believe in free speech. What Spotify is doing now just pisses off both sides. Pro speech people don't like this, JRE listeners don't like this, and anti Rogan people won't stop until he's 'canceled' completely.

This is a good analysis of one of his more controversial podcasts. It’s not him presenting “both sides”. He has an agenda and his guests push flat out lies that go unchecked: https://www.wired.com/story/plaintext-joe-rogan-spotify-thou...

I don't see the relevance of this comment. Free speech people don't think that agendas are anti-freefom-of-speech. Agendas are allowed. Lies are allowed.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

#196

Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…

Everybody is calling for cancelation. Nobody is calling for censorship. Your morals are confused.

If cancellation is done for the purpose of silencing, then it is censorship. That's the very definition of censorship: suppression of speech.

Contrary to popular misconception (usually just in the US) it has nothing to do with the government.

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I'm not sure this website is accurate as Rogan so far has not said anything on Twitter or Instagram about this. Yet if true, this is such BS. It's hard not to see Rogan, with his massive and mostly bipartisan audience, yet still polarizing and controversial discussions, as a litmus test for how well the West really embraces dissent. We're supposed to have invented dissent, right? And Joe Rogan, he's our little free s…

> I'm not sure this website is accurate as Rogan so far has not said anything on Twitter or Instagram about this. I checked for a couple of the episodes on Spotify (#1103 Tom Segura, #1218 Gad Saad) and could not find them, so it may be legit.

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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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If Spotify is trying to effect or create the appearance of a willingness to reach a compromise in response to the recent singer pressure campaign, then it is doing nothing other than signal weakness.

Yep, either they remain absolute, or they will bend in the wind at every new demand. Compromising with the modern version of book burners is not going to be a good long term strategy. Worse, they spent a lot of money and knew what they were getting, so it just makes them look like idiots to investors.

"book burners" seems like a particularly poor analogy, given that the general motivation is to reduce the death toll of Covid-19, not eradicate a cultural heritage (which was, in the case of the Nazis - the quintessential book burners - accompanied by a deliberate mass genocide). A more apt comparison would be people who lobbied to restrict tobacco advertising (see the Surgeon General's Warning, etc.)
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