Live data from Hacker News

Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

support.signal.org

191–200 of 226 posts

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making the colors of buttons consistent seems like something that could be done as a pull request. I think all of their code is open source?

No, not all their code is open source; they're claiming it is for spam protection

Assuming this is a client side feature, those can be contributed to afaik: https://github.com/signalapp

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you get your friends to switch? I have tried and, dude, my group will just not change from their pre-installed messaging apps, except for 2 of them. They don't care that it's more secure (arguably) or that you can pull it up on your computer (my main reason for using it), they just have no interest.

> I have tried and, dude, my group will just not change from their pre-installed messaging apps, except for 2 of them. They don't care that it's more secure (arguably) or that you can pull it up on your computer (my main reason for using it), they just have no interest. How close is your group? It's probably feasible to convince best friends and family to switch, but if your group contains a lot of less close friends…

Yeah, the two people I have convinced to switch are my wife and someone I know who works in tech and I've known since highschool... so a very long time, lol

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#193
post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m tired of all these text messaging silos. Email is ubiquitous because no one owns it. RCS can’t come fast enough.

I'll bite. What's RCS?

Google is its biggest backer and you can find more at https://jibe.google.com, along with the usual Internet searches.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#194
post #155

The first line says > Signal is a nonprofit with no advertisers or investors, sustained only by the people who use and value it. Wasn't the case that Brian Acton had invested $50 million in Signal?

Signal Foundation is a non-profit. It is my understanding this is a 0% interest loan, not an investment. I'm no expert, but after examining their 2019 balance sheet, it seems to me like they are well on their way to paying it back. I guess the salaries are competitive in San Francisco. Spicy! https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/824...

MATTHEW CHEN (SOFTWARE DEVELOPER) $585,320

MOXIE MARLINSPIKE (DIRECTOR/CEO OF SIGNAL MESSENGER) $575,275

SCOTT NONNENBERG (SOFTWARE DEVELOPER) $523,376

JOSH LUND (SOFTWARE DEVELOPER) $522,412

TREVOR PERRIN (SOFTWARE DEVELOPER) $514,986

MICHAEL KIRK (SOFTWARE DEVELOPER) $504,466

ARUNA HARDER (CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER) $315,733

-----------

Holy moly, more than half a million bucks each except for the COO.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#195
post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My other complaint is that it's just another walled garden.

That's true of all messaging apps besides base text messages, though, isn't it? It's not like I can send a message on facebook messenger to somebody who reads it in telegram.

RCS / JOIN is an open standard, but it lacks important features like E2E

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#196

Reminder that Signal server source code is not fully released and the app is heavily dependent on google services to operate. Signal also takes measures against third party or unofficial apps. Whatever you say about privacy Signal is not an ally of user freedom.

Not to mention that they keep investing in things that people don't necessarily care about (like the crypto currency embedded in the app). It is kind of beyond me why people would submit to monthly donations to a company which only care about its own interests.

I had actually considered donating to Signal, but the addition of Moxie's crypto scheme to the app scared me completely away.

Signal kind of hits a sweet spot of usability and security, but it's incredibly tenuous and I don't trust the company to hold my interests at heart. It seems like we should be able to do better.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll bite. What's RCS?

The “next-generation” text messaging standard to replace SMS/MMS. Higher quality images, read receipts, etc. I believe it also supports some form of encryption.

Interesting, I'm surprised to find Google as a big promoter of this, doesn't this go against their walled garden approach if there is a universal messaging infrastructure?

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#198
post #63

I am fundamentally not interested in managing monthly bills for things. You won’t win me by asking for recurring donations. Just ask me for ten bucks for some one-time symbolic upgrade. Also I’ve recently been back on the App Store for the first time in a long while. WHAT IS GOING ON?! The gall for simple, offline only apps like a little piano keyboard to want monthly fees for continued use. There isn’t even an illus…

So you don't have any insurances?

Obviously I’m not saying I don’t have any recurring fees. But I’m not about to have fifty more recurring fees because every app wants ARR.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No set time they must be repaid. As close to a gift as you can get.

> By the end of 2018, the loan had increased to $105,000,400, which is due to be repaid on February 28, 2068. The loan is unsecured and at 0% interest. This is from Signal Foundation's Wikipedia. There is a schedule.

Acton is 50 today, 96 in 2068. I'd bet his estate will have stipulations for this loan.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#200

They should sell the ability of creating an account not attached to a phone number. Pay $5, get a code that allows creating a single account, enter the code somewhere in the app to allow using a user name in place of the phone. This limits spam and, as this code can also be sent to another person, there is a way to hide the relationship between payer and final user. No need for cryptocoins, NFTs, or other stupid thin…

so pay for privacy?

I thought privacy was supposed to be available for free?

Post reply on HN