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We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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China is one of the most polluting nations in the world. I've started to think that avoiding trade with them is a responsibility. Also, the book "Poorly made in China" is extremely interesting.

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Bought a system on Ali Express to save money, the parts don't match what they ordered, it is infected with a virus designed to steal their data and infect executables on any USB device plugged into it to spread the infection. Ali Express says computers with viruses on them aren't against terms of service. They for some reason continue to use the system and try to get it to work. £4k GBP...relatively low cost compared…

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Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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It's fair play to act like any gov is doing this. E.G: Microsoft being American (and them being part of PRISM), I just assume the OS has a backdoor for the US gov. Now with Windows 10 heavy telemetry, it's even easier. I work for a client doing chips for credit cards. Did you know they are now full blown computers that can run a light version of Java (Java Card) ? The company is building their own hardware and softwa…

It's pretty absurd to both sides something like this. Do you have evidence that the US government is doing this on computers it sells overseas, or is this just magical speculation?

I heard your type of argument about the US mass spying before Snowden, and surprise, we were not conspirationists after all.

So call that educated magical speculation.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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20 years ago, china hide 2nd network card that was in listener mode, transmitting documents at random times, mostly peek. This was at a research company. How it was discovered. We put a card on listening/prem mode and mirror everything for that subnet the printer was on. I thought I screwed it up with the double mirror/traffic. when investigating why the issue, we found nothing wrong with the config, only when we plu…

It's fair play to act like any gov is doing this. E.G: Microsoft being American (and them being part of PRISM), I just assume the OS has a backdoor for the US gov. Now with Windows 10 heavy telemetry, it's even easier. I work for a client doing chips for credit cards. Did you know they are now full blown computers that can run a light version of Java (Java Card) ? The company is building their own hardware and softwa…

It’s not “fair play” to equate your assumptions and personal conspiracies to thousands of documented cases of state sponsored IP theft.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Moving manufacturing back to our home countries (assuming a mostly Western audience here) is important not just for economic reasons but also for health, safety, and security. Trying to do so might get you called a racist, but it might depend on what political party is giving it a shot. This is an old problem and too little is being done about it.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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You can all downvote me all u want but my thoughts and the things I type/say on HN later show to be true.

I’d say it’s mostly pretty vanilla cookie-cutter conspiracy nonsense, which is rarely true.

Unless you’d like to take the time to specify the truths you’ve been saying and that everyone else has been ignoring?

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Hug of death probably so I cannot read the article. Anyway that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If something doesn't match the description send it back, if you find random executables that you cannot identify send it back, if you are asked to register on some weird…

that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. This is one of the big reasons that Apple locked down its Lightning/USB ports so hard. There were tons of fake Apple chargers flooding the market that contained exfiltration circuitry, among other problems. It was a huge topic i…

DO IPhones automatically trust things plugged into them? My Android mobiles and tablets always ask me before allowing anything other than charging.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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I've bought systems off of Amazon that had pirated Windows licenses on them (otherwise a great little fanless box) In a previous life I was an infosec consultant. We did some work for a hospital that found malware on the control hosts shipped with a brand new turnkey MRI system from a German manufacturer.

I've seen plenty of stick PCs on Amazon that definitely have pirated copies of Windows on them. I continue to be a bit surprised that Microsoft hasn't gone after Amazon for "aiding & abetting" this, but they probably have bigger fish to fry.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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Hug of death probably so I cannot read the article. Anyway that's the reason why I don't buy Chinese crap anymore. I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If something doesn't match the description send it back, if you find random executables that you cannot identify send it back, if you are asked to register on some weird…

>I'm not saying that I don't buy anything made in China, almost everything is made in China, but everyone should avoid Chinese crapware. If you spend just a small bit of effort, you can look for items not made in China. They are usually higher quality. Japanese companies (and increasingly large American ones) are moving / have moved their production elsewhere due to an increasingly hostile business environment in Chi…

> If you spend just a small bit of effort, you can look for items not made in China. They are usually higher quality.

I try to do this when I can, and they're definitely higher quality, but for some products, finding a version not made in China is almost impossible, a problem that's exacerbated by stores like Amazon not being required to disclose where their products are made.

Re: We purchased a machine from China and it came with malware preinstalled

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It's fair play to act like any gov is doing this. E.G: Microsoft being American (and them being part of PRISM), I just assume the OS has a backdoor for the US gov. Now with Windows 10 heavy telemetry, it's even easier. I work for a client doing chips for credit cards. Did you know they are now full blown computers that can run a light version of Java (Java Card) ? The company is building their own hardware and softwa…

It’s not “fair play” to equate your assumptions and personal conspiracies to thousands of documented cases of state sponsored IP theft.

Yeah, I read those kind of comments before.

But then again, we got a PRISM, XKeyscore or NSO Pegasus coming out of the box every other year. So I stand by "fair play" to qualify my assumptions.

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