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Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by Karsteski »

rapsey wrote: post #122
aspaviento wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux version: - some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work - some times images are displayed and others not - can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call - the scroll is completely broken - can't get out of the immersive mode without closing the process (the back arrow doesn't work) And the list goes on and on...

As a cross platform desktop app developer I hate desktop linux. So many reinventions of the wheel that you have to support. Graphics, sound, video capture, GUI is all a mess.

Can you elaborate more? What would you prefer instead, with regards to developing for Linux?

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by MegaDeKay »

aspaviento wrote: post #100
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

Linux version: - some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work - some times images are displayed and others not - can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call - the scroll is completely broken - can't get out of the immersive mode without closing the process (the back arrow doesn't work) And the list goes on and on...

"some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work". Same bug in Windows. Select the button with the three dots "...", and hit escape when the menu pops up. Arrow key will start working again.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by IggleSniggle »

aspaviento wrote: post #100
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

Linux version: - some times the left arrow to move the cursor doesn't work - some times images are displayed and others not - can't have more than 4 people on screen in a video call - the scroll is completely broken - can't get out of the immersive mode without closing the process (the back arrow doesn't work) And the list goes on and on...

I have all of these issues as well on macOS. The left-arrow is typically the most frustrating one to me.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by mathattack »

pydry wrote: post #17

In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…

At my prior employer, the MSFT rep lied so much about Teams that he created a rebellion costing them 8-9 figures in current and future deals.

As a firm their ethics seem to have improved since the 90s but a few bad apples…

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by bluGill »

senectus1 wrote: post #41
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

Lync was worse.

I want lync back. I'm no longer 20, my eyes demand that I zoom everything in and then features disappear

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by IggleSniggle »

exyi wrote: post #184
IiydAbITMvJkqKf wrote: post #34

MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.

Second only to Azure dev oops. Next in line is Jira... why do corporations love this kind of software?

These kinds of software are really good at having answers for “what-about”isms, so it doesn’t matter that the subjective experience is bad. For any objective “what-about” in terms of integration story or security story or whatever, they have a thousand different answers that can be applied, so the purchaser will always be convinced that all potential issues are addressed.

The endless branching feature list also results in broken spaghetti code that creates a horrible subjective and inconsistent experience.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

Does anyone know why they have to do weekly micro patch? I mean who is the PM and does he/she really believe it's enough to do tests for weekly releases? The last patch on MacOS was released on the 16th and today I see anew patch.

BTW the picture issue is still there.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by Fnoord »

pydry wrote: post #17

In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…

You're almost certain given which evidence? You provide none.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

542458 wrote: post #176
isodev wrote: post #116

I work with several large organisations, all using Teams. In every instance, the previous solution (Slack/Zoom/Discord) was replaced by Teams following higher management making the switch for reasons like "it's included in Office 365" or a new hire influencing the migration to Microsoft solutions. In every instance, the application was/is not well received by the employees - it's slow, buggy, crazy complicated and ge…

Anecdotally (as a counterpoint), we also went with teams, and it’s been… fine. There are bugs, but they’re mostly in the category of “irritating” rather than “massively disruptive”. It’s nice that teams is integrated with the rest of Microsoft’s 365 and outlook stuff, and service uptime has been good enough. From my POV, the differences vs Slack have been pretty minor (although I recognize that my experience isn’t un…

TBH I'd rather the bugs be disruptive than being irritating. If they are disruptive people will just use other tools or MS will treat it more seriously. Now they are just irritating so they ignore or push them further.

Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities

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Post by hnthrowaway0315 »

raspyberr wrote: post #181

If this is turning into a Microsoft bashing thread I'll join in as well. I don't understand how text handling (highlighting, moving around etc.) works/feels different between Teams, Excel, Outlook, Word, the OS. They're all developed by the same company. Why do they integrate so messily?

Different teams (and skill levels probably). I'm actually thinking MS leaves unimportant work (like Teams because it's bundled) to newbies or new PMs. Good developers are expensive.
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