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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#191

Must be a Y in the day. It amazes me how many projects exist that don't even have multi-region capability, let alone no single point of failure

You're saying that as if it's a walk in the park to set up and not cost prohibitive, in terms of opportunity cost and budget, especially for smaller companies.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#192

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

This has been true for a long time and it is not a bad thing.

It’s an easy target to romanticize but realistically, any alternative is basically a way of saying: “let’s stop evolving.”

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#193

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

On-prem is much more rare, but its hardly non-existent. Plenty of people know how to do this sort of thing.

On-prem, maybe, but if you include co-located equipment and managed hosting I don't even think it's more rare in absolute terms. Just smaller as a percentage of overall hosting.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#195
HOST THE GODDAMN STATUS PAGE ON AZURE FOR FUCKS SAKE.

There is zero excuse for this shit. Be professional. Acknowledge reality. It is logically impossible to run your own status page. Trying to do so just wastes everyone else on the internet's time when you have an outage.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#196
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It's not just AWS - check the down reports: https://downdetector.com/ Cloudflare having some significant issues as well on certain domains.

DownDetector is showing everything down during that period, including Google.

I suspect DownDetector itself suffered some outages during this period, which it shows as outages of every service it monitors.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#197

Vercel is down too. My sites run on Cloudflare and Vercel, and I can't even log in to those right now. I'm curious — what does Hacker News run on? It seems impervious to any kind of downtime...

> I'm curious — what does Hacker News run on? It seems impervious to any kind of downtime... On a dirty, disgusting dedicated server.

> On a dirty, disgusting dedicated server.

I'm adding "reliable" into that mix. Too bad they're too expensive and hard to setup for side projects, but HN is probably one of the most stable site I frequently visit, and I don't even think about it.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#198

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive. I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.

> I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself.

Cluster berries, from raspberries to pineapples, are never poisonous. Avoid berries that resemble blueberries or currants unless you're able to identify the plant: we grew up with blueberries and know the leaves, but we avoid anything currant-like because we'd have no idea if they're actually, say, chokeberries. Avoid anything that looks like baneberries.

Here in Maine, we forage for raspberries, blackberries, wild strawberries, and (mostly low bush) blueberries, but don't risk others.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#199

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive. I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.

But you could probably devise a scheme by which you feed all of your students an assortment of berries and figure out which ones are safe based on which students get sick or die.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#200

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Surely we are way past the point where someone knows how the whole thing works, all the way down. I doubt even a very skilled engineer would know how his own machine works all the way down. What I think happens mostly is the skilled dev can use his experience to know where to investigate and where to look for solutions. The question is organisational. Might it be that certain orgs have gotten so convoluted that they…

I do contracting dev work and my specialty is being able to drill down into any part of the engineering assets, ops, sec, dev. People think someone like me is slow and expensive until they have a problem that no one else wants to touch.
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