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Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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There are probably a number of other drugs that could have done that, though.

Heroin, interestingly enough. IIRC they screened pain medicine recipients for depressive symptoms and in this way determined opiates relieve major depression more efficaciously than SSRIs.

Yes, and a close relative (oxycodone) is something I’ve had experience with and can confirm it’s quite good at curing the depression. The problem is the permanent brain damage and/or death it will cause when taken long-term. Link https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/hero...>

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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I am not saying it is not for you. But please consider alternatives as CBD or a healthier routine.

What makes CBD healthier necessarily? Curious of your viewpoint

It's not just libido. It's lethargy, weight gain, lack of mental motivation, brain fog. There's a lot of SSRI side effects.

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As someone dating in their 20s, it is getting hard to find people who aren’t having SSRI-related dysfunction. Recently met an older (early 30s guy) and it was seriously cool having a sexual experience that didn’t end with “don’t bother I’m just not going to finish no matter how long we go.” They really seem to be handing out these serious, almost-impossible-to-withdraw medications like candy on Halloween. They don’t…

I do wonder if there's a culture-wide bug/meme with regards to mental health (and beyond) that makes it hard to push for lifestyle changes at scale. I think one such meme is around agency, with the underlying meme being that humans have no control over their circumstances or mental state. They have anxiety or they have depression. It's part of their identity, and these seem to be thought of as immutable diseases. And…

I was on SSRIs for a time until my thoughts became so irreversibly cloudy that I weened off and stopped. After that I coincidentally stopped drinking, my weight dropped, and now I've stopped using weed for the most part. My anxiety doesn't go away, even if I go ride my bike for hours.

The things that give me anxiety are largely social. How people think of me at work, my appearance, what women think of me, and how they perceive how I act. The only thing that helps is shutting these thoughts down with CBT. I've dubbed this my, "Nobody cares Mother Fucker™" routine.

I've noticed relying on my friends to vent just sours relationships. As much as people gloat about support systems, it's mainly a farce. People will only tolerate hearing so much of your internal dissonance, concerns, and stressors. People want to enjoy you, for the most part. Maybe a partner will be there for you, but not likely in my experience (though, I'm unmarried, so take what I say with a grain of salt.)

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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Thank you for taking the time to post this. I'll take a look at your experiences and consider taking action.

If you try anything, ask for Wellbutrin first if it is not the first thing prescribed. There are usually not any libido or lethargy issues. You may have ADHD and may want to get tested for it. I'm looking for a doctor to go to again, but being an adult the ones I've seen so far think I just want drugs. Complications from ADHD look a lot like depression.

This is really interesting. May I ask why you came to the ADHD conclusion in the first place? Was it solely the correlation between depression/anxiety and adhd?

I did a quick search and came across a few articles such as the following one: https://totallyadd.com/23-signs-you-do-not-have-adhd/

I was surprised to find I exhibit many of these symptoms. Most prominently having stacks of things throughout the office/house which contain various half-worked projects or hobbies or just general information. My shieldmadien constantly complains about the "disaster" and is always shocked when she asks where something is, and I'm able to go straight to the pile of junk which contains exactly what she's looking for.

Other things like time being an elusive concept or going to another room to get something and then getting there and having no idea what I am supposed to be doing are also frequent occurrences. I know where my car keys are, but that's only because I have a very specific plastic tray on the kitchen counter that is supposed to contain them and my wallet. If they disappear from there because I get distracted between walking into the house and emptying my pockets then it's usually a hunt for them.

I tend to bounce between new projects but get obsessively engrossed with them at the start... and then just never complete them.

Not sure if I actually have it, but it is an interesting thought.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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In my early 20s (male) I was prescribed (read: pushed) citalopram by my family doctor. I took it for about a year. I'm in my early 30s now and sometimes STILL suffer from the inability to reach orgasm. I stopped taking the medication and when I realized it was in fact the medication interfering with my love life, and unfortunately realized too late. I've read alot about this after the fact and am surprised this reached HN. Nothing really to add to this conversation but its reassuring to know I'm not alone.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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As someone dating in their 20s, it is getting hard to find people who aren’t having SSRI-related dysfunction. Recently met an older (early 30s guy) and it was seriously cool having a sexual experience that didn’t end with “don’t bother I’m just not going to finish no matter how long we go.” They really seem to be handing out these serious, almost-impossible-to-withdraw medications like candy on Halloween. They don’t…

The doctors don't seem to care about the side effects. All the psych drugs have horrendous side effects which get basically ignored. I've even seen multiple suggestions that mass shootings might be a rare side effect from them.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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You're absolutely right. This is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think anxiety or depression are mental illness. They are just feelings. Your feelings do not make you ill... People attribute it to a 'chemical' imbalance, but your brain being run by chemical fluctuations, everything is a 'chemical' balance, including this comment I'm typing right now. What we've done is taken these brain fluctuations, and labeled th…

What are the traditional tools we can use to get ourselves out of depression? Exercise probably?

Buddhism has been working on this for a couple thousand or so years. There are many different practices and traditions that have evolved in it, but many of them at the beginning will teach you to sit and observe all sorts of phenomena, or may even ask you to bring up uncomfortable, strong emotions to learn how to work with them.

And yeah, for sure exercise. Just remember the practice of training your body is a marathon, not a sprint. Consistent effort over years is what you're going for rather than trying to go hard at the beginning. It's a lifestyle change.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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> You replied and said you saw a psychiatrist when you were still on a anxiety drug and the insurance paid for it. Well, of course they did, you were taking a drug. The insurance company doesn't know what you are discussing in your sessions and isn't going to let you see or not see a specialist just based on whether they prescribe you meds. That's not how it works - or not how it should be working if your insurer is…

> The insurance company doesn't know what you are discussing in your sessions That's not true. From what I understand, sessions are coded e.g. "Intake" or "Meds check" when billed to insurance. They know roughly what you're talking about. > and isn't going to let you see or not see a specialist just based on whether they prescribe you meds. You can't bill a meds check with no meds. > That's not how it works - or not…

> That's not true. From what I understand, sessions are coded e.g. "Intake" or "Meds check" when billed to insurance. They know roughly what you're talking about.

You are correct that CPT codes give some insight into what was provided, but you are wrong about what codes providers use in this case.

To check myself, I pulled my insurance provider's EOBs for my last two visit to a psychiatrist and my last visit to a psychotherapist. The codes were as follows:

Psychiatrist - CPT 99214 and 90833. Those are "office or other outpatient visit for the evaluation and management of an established patient, which requires at least two of these three key components: a detailed history, a detailed examination and medical decision making of moderate complexity", and "Individual psychotherapy, insight oriented, behavior modifying and/or supportive, 30 minutes" respectively.

So I don't think from these you can assume "this person was prescribed meds", necessarily. These are very similar to a standard doctor's visit billing code, or a therapy billing code (as below).

Psychologist - CPT 90837, which is "60 Minute Individual Therapy"

Both of these EOBs indicate the insurance paid the provider for the codes as billed. This is one example, but I'd be surprised to find it wasn't representative (that is, that my providers are not billing in generally accepted ways).

> You can't bill a meds check with no meds.

As you can see above, there isn't necessarily such a thing as a "meds check" CPT code. The codes don't give the kind of information you're imagining.

> And those sessions were probably billed as "intake", "evaluation" or the like. A psychiatrist cannot keep billing intakes and evaluations forever. Talk therapy is coded in its own way, and generally paid at a lower rate.

It is true talk therapy is a separate CPT code; it isn't true that it's always paid at a lower rate. The negotiated rate depends on the insurance company and provider's agreement.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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I've experienced the sexual side effects. For me they lessened over time (going from mostly not being able to achieve climax to that rarely happening) and taking a lower dose helps. For those that are not at risk of seizures they can take bupropion as well to decrease the dose of the other SSRI further.

But honestly sex is mostly in the brain and not finishing every time is only a drag if you think that it is. Personally I find it liberating, sex becomes a fun intimate pass time without an end goal. And certainly the benefits to my depression and anxiety out weigh the negatives for me.

Re: Post-SSRI sexual dysfunction

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All 3 are in abundance in Ethiopia. So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there? Folksy phrases aren't a great guide to mental health.

> So why are depressive disorders so prevalent there Because there's no such thing as 'depressive disorder'. We expect people to be happy, and when they're not, we call them diseased. Nothing is wrong with them. Also, Ethiopia is in the midst of a civil war isn't it?

False, we expect people to be depressed when depressing things happen, this is normal and called "situational depression," you've confused it with a disorder.

Depression has been a problem in Ethiopia for much longer than the conflict in Tigray, despite the abundance of "community, shared culture, shared religion." Looks like it takes more than that...

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