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Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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There's a whole class of society that won't think of decreased tourism as a good thing

Half-Croat, half-German from Munich here. To add some perspective - tourism is a double edged sword for popular destinations, and it's... worse than a serious heroin addiction for everyone, in the end. On one side, many tourist destinations are happy to share the beauty of their landscape, the clean beaches, historical areas and the likes. And they make lots of money from it. On the other side, it's extremely easy to…

I agree so much on the heroin aspect as I always made the same comparison between tourism and drugs.

Withdrawal syndrome is the only word I can find to describe the state Firenze was left in without tourists, during the initial lockdowns.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

Nice twist. A country that is a tax heaven and enables a lot of business to avoid due taxes in other jurisdictions is now concerned that it can't get its own share of taxes.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#194

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It's rich getting richer at the cost of a whole bunch of individuals getting f* ked, hospitality staff is still being underpaid with 0hours contracts, and tenants are still being f* ked with increased housing prices, so COVID was quite good for lower classes, and I have no sympathy for the upper ones, the worst they get, the happier I am

> and I have no sympathy for the upper ones, the worst they get, the happier I am That's the stance I fully despise. My country (Russia) has suffered tremendously (and still does, 100 years later) because people sharing such ideas took power, killing dozens of millions in the process.

The thing is that you guys from Russia have started thinking that you're the solo holder of human sufference, I come from Southern Italy with Mafia and absent government, where rich get richer, kids play on the street surrounded by heroin needles, all with few castles of rich people being the kings among the shit, so yeah I won't dare to tell you how entitled you are to your ideas, but probably if the people that took power had the feeling that doing what they did was fair, maybe had their reasons

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#195
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So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

There's a limit of 30 nights per year that private individuals can let out their homes. Before the mandatory registration, there was no way for the municipality to enforce or even check that people complied. Now that people can't let out their properties all year round it's not worth it so they're selling up or getting in long term renters.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#196

Regulatory arbitrage of some sort seems to be involved in many recent digital business models. Whether it concerns or involves (lack of) data privacy regulation, "reinventing" labour contracts or undercutting taxation frameworks, it is a most cruel reminder of how poor the management of the commons. While many of the efficiencies and attractions of re-inventing various businesses for the "digital age" seem genuine, t…

> a lose-lose proposition for anybody but the most short-term minded. "[I]n recent years the realisation has dawned that what’s good for Silicon Valley is not always good for everyone. What started with scrappy upstarts promising to make the world a better place has morphed into something more sinister: a pantheon of faceless multinationals who collectively dominate the world’s digital infrastructure, flouting regula…

There's some good and some bad out of Silicon Valley like with most things but you can always ban the bad and take advantage of the good.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#197

Regulatory arbitrage of some sort seems to be involved in many recent digital business models. Whether it concerns or involves (lack of) data privacy regulation, "reinventing" labour contracts or undercutting taxation frameworks, it is a most cruel reminder of how poor the management of the commons. While many of the efficiencies and attractions of re-inventing various businesses for the "digital age" seem genuine, t…

It's a most cruel reminder of how bad regulations are.

Some regulations.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#198
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The irony of law abiding vigilante drivers beating up regulation abritraging drivers

The thing with legal taxis is that the quality of their service is complete shit. At least in some countries. You dont know how much you will pay (their estimates are always too low) and the first questions by the driver are to check if you know the town. If you dont sound like a local, then they will drive you through the longest route possible. And worst: you can do nothing about it. No way to report the licensed d…

And because taxis are so heavily regulated it wasn't possible to compete with those bad taxis either. Regulation can cement an oligopoly.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#199

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I realize this, even so, for Amsterdam it was a very much needed reprieve.

So you work hard to make your city to become one of the major tourist destinations in the world, who bring in a lot of money and help the local business flourish, and then need a reprieve from that? Kinda counterproductive, no?

How could we possibly think of changing with the times?

Why wouldn't we want to continue have mobs of drunken British yobbos throwing up in the streets? (Note: I'm British for a little bit longer, so I can say such things.)

And we're seriously thinking of banning cruise ships here in Amsterdam - against, too much hassle, not enough revenue, lot of pollution. If that happens, they will raise the bed of the river IJ 4 meters and put a bike tunnel underneath it!

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

#200
post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The irony of law abiding vigilante drivers beating up regulation abritraging drivers

The thing with legal taxis is that the quality of their service is complete shit. At least in some countries. You dont know how much you will pay (their estimates are always too low) and the first questions by the driver are to check if you know the town. If you dont sound like a local, then they will drive you through the longest route possible. And worst: you can do nothing about it. No way to report the licensed d…

I wonder if we can make Yelp for taxis. Open the app, scan the plate, check the reviews, if they're bad, go to the next taxi. But I guess dodgy taxi drivers would just buy new license plate (e.g. for their "own" private cars) and swap them - ok in a lot of jurisdictions taxi plates look different to normal car plates.

Or the taxi driver can be made aware of the bad reviews and they'd have to do a deal with the app user, e.g. a fixed price with a 20% discount, for a fair review. (Rough idea, there are probably bigger issues when you're dealing with crooked drivers).

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