Live data from Hacker News

Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

fox13now.com

191–200 of 221 posts

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#192

This is great news. Even if we've heard similar announcements before. Definitely good to have closure. Closure not just for the family. Really, for everyone who has followed this. Unmasked soon, I hope, and finally... Zodiac Killer will be revealed.

lmao, I am dying at this.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#193
post #8

I feel like at least twice a year, there is some story like "Zodiac Killer Finally Identified" or "DB Cooper Finally Found". And behind these stories is usually just one person or group of people who are presenting their pet theory (which highlighted all facts supporting it, and conveniently brushes aside all facts which don't) and have savy media contacts so are able to get media exposure to help promote what's freq…

It's actually the same guy! The fox news video started auto-playing and they introduced their first guest as "Casebreakers head Tom Colbert, who IDed hijacker DB Cooper". So, yeah, I think based on that alone this is likely fake news.

He was as tenacious as a bull-dog when he once understood what he had to do, and indeed it was just this tenacity which has brought him to the top.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#194
post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else have issues with identifying and describing facial features. I have no problems recognizing people, but there’s no way I can verbalize them on a specific features basis. What kind of disorder do I have?

I've always had a similar experience to this and also don't believe it is the same thing as either aphantasia or prosopagnosia. I can consciously imagine things (and people and places) that I'm not seeing right now. I'm not super-great at it, but I can certainly do it. I can also easily and reliably recognize individual people. But the idea of describing any individual detail of people's appearance even while looking…

I couldn’t describe this any better. Especially the visual chunking and abstraction.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#195

I cannot even fathom the evil required to kill a real life human being just for a sick moment of "fun" or whatever it is. I'm almost hoping that they've got the wrong guy and that the real one is alive so they can catch him and execute him.

Do you sense no irony whatsoever in your statement?

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know whether your experience is similar to mine, but I can't visualize faces at all, even of someone I have just been looking at. I have no issues recognizing people or visualizing things other than faces, so neither aphantasia nor prosopagnosia match.

I can’t visualize anything really. It’s like I just think about its shape in an abstract since but I don’t actually visualize anything it’s all words and thoughts in my head, no images.

There was an article about this here on hn some time ago. People who don’t have a mind’s eye.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The local PD is also refusing to do DNA tests which would resolve the issue. Yeah, mean ol' law enforcement, refusing to do DNA tests for any crank mystery squad solving team that demands them.

If the group wants to incurr the costs what does it matter?

There is probably not an infinite supply of dna evidence, and testing it is destructive. So I can imagine they don’t want to testany plausible theory but save it for when they are really convinced.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, "aphantasia" is now labeled as "the inability to voluntarily create a mental picture in your head". That's from Google. The primary problem with this label is that this could include some people who see involuntary imagery (like people), but don't do what is essentially creative visualization. For those people, they "know" the experience of seeing things in mind. Then there are the rest of us "aphants"…

> Then there are the rest of us "aphants" that don't ever see images internally, at all. What about remembering things that you have already seen? Let's say I ask you to watch, for example, the Star Trek TNG opening sequence. Can you "rewatch" it? I can. I can also sort of picture 'creative' images, to an extent. However, conjuring up faces of people I've met is pretty difficult. Even my dog, which I find easier than…

For me, the visualization is a mix of still frames, caricatures and abstractions.

Re: Investigators say they've finally identified the Zodiac Killer

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm missing something here. I could create a coded message that required apeace to decipher. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'm you.

But there's no reasonable motive for the Zodiac Killer to do so. If he wanted to frame Gary Poaste, he would plant evidence that was more obvious. If he wanted to toy with the detectives who were trying to discover his identity though--which is well within the pattern of behavior observed from the Zodiac Killer--this is exactly the sort of thing he would do.

If he knew one of their suspects names and decided to fuck with them and throw them off the trail, yes, he would use someone else's name. Your leap to judgement of "it must be Gary" is just as much of a leap as "it might not be" - both rely on "knowing" the Zodiac's motives, which no one does, because he's not been identified.
Post reply on HN