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Windows 11: Just say no

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Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by kodeninja »

jjoonathan wrote: post #37
heurisko wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was trying to check Disk Partitions on Windows 10, so typed this into the search. It gave me a website with some freeware tool. I had to search around again until I found the actual system tool. I don't know what a regular user would have done. I'm not really a Windows user.

My favorite is when I see the result I want flash by and then I accidentally type the next character -- correctly -- due to momentum, and the result disappears. Then I delete the last character in an attempt to bring back the result, and then I try retyping the whole thing, but the correct result never reappears. It is gone. Only useless web results remain.

This happens on Spotlight as well.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by munchbunny »

II2II wrote: post #157
mypalmike wrote: post #151

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Dream job: full time engineer on Windows Calculator team.

Developing a calculator that one could be proud of would be a pretty sweet job. By that I mean producing a product that consistently produced correct results, offered useful features, and had a user interface that is more pleasant to use than a four function calculator.

Did that at an earlier point in my career, and it absolutely was, but calculators pretty quickly reach a point where "less is more", and at that point it's just better to leave it alone.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by Dylan16807 »

userbinator wrote: post #26
Someone1234 wrote: post #21

Windows 11 is half-baked. But it isn't just half-baked because it was rushed out while ignoring all the feedback (although it absolutely was). It is also half-baked because Microsoft's management has no particular strategy or plan for what they want Windows to be. So Windows 11 just feels like an "and kitchen sink" where someone picked up an iPad, noted down a bunch of random features without rhyme or reason and then…

and UI elements that haven't been updated since Windows 2K. Also known as "the good part"... Everything else about Windows UI since then has only gotten less usable and more hostile.

Consistency would be good.

Also some of the old elements don't work well anymore. Like new menus that appear in certain folders, except you'd never know because the menu bar is hidden by default. Or forms that were never designed to resize.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by amyjess »

I'm not touching Windows 11 till someone comes out with a comprehensive shell replacement (i.e. it must replace all of explorer.exe) that re-creates the Windows 98 taskbar experience.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by amyjess »

chasil wrote: post #23
pjmlp wrote: post #7

I have to agree, even though I have plenty of pro-Windows comments. To me Windows 11 feels like Vista, and to everyone that got burned with the rewrites on the WinRT side, just using plain Win32/MFC/Forms/WPF feels liberating. Multiple teams are fighting UI politics over WinUI, MAUI on top of WinUI, React Native with WinUI, and classical UWP is not going away (Windows 11 Store is written in it), then ASP.NET team is…

I wonder if ReactOS will hit 1.0 by the time that Windows 10 goes out of support in 2024. It would be interesting to see older systems retasked to a free clone OS, potentially running most/all of the same software. https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-in-2020/

I'd settle for being able to delete explorer.exe from my system and put the ReactOS shell in its place.

I want to play modern games but with the Windows 98 desktop experience.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by amyjess »

N00bN00b wrote: post #190
pjmlp wrote: post #7

I have to agree, even though I have plenty of pro-Windows comments. To me Windows 11 feels like Vista, and to everyone that got burned with the rewrites on the WinRT side, just using plain Win32/MFC/Forms/WPF feels liberating. Multiple teams are fighting UI politics over WinUI, MAUI on top of WinUI, React Native with WinUI, and classical UWP is not going away (Windows 11 Store is written in it), then ASP.NET team is…

Wouldn't surprise me if you reboot your computer one day and surprise! It's windows 11 now! Remember, they did the same thing with Windows 10 a couple of times.

Welp, time to start dropping every packet from any Windows Update-related IP block in my router...

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by wruza »

cogman10 wrote: post #64
userbinator wrote: post #26

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and UI elements that haven't been updated since Windows 2K. Also known as "the good part"... Everything else about Windows UI since then has only gotten less usable and more hostile.

This is what drives me nuts. Why do they keep messing with the UI? Nobody wants that! Even Apple and Google have both figured out that screwing around with UX every release is a recipe for making your customers HATE you. What I, and probably non-power users want out of windows is for it to be faster and use less power. I'd honestly be happy to go back to a Win95 interface with the latest kernel. Microsoft needs to fi…

How do you notice new control panel elements, if not looking for damned “them appliances for interchange connectivity” or whatever bullshit they came up with this time for networking cpl?

fire the idiots that keep messing around with the UX

Don’t push on them too hard, maybe they are bound by some evil contract. Legend has it, one guy sold his soul to make the new PATH= editing dialog after 666 weeks (~13 years) of negotiations.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by amyjess »

jnsaff2 wrote: post #54
pjmlp wrote: post #7

I have to agree, even though I have plenty of pro-Windows comments. To me Windows 11 feels like Vista, and to everyone that got burned with the rewrites on the WinRT side, just using plain Win32/MFC/Forms/WPF feels liberating. Multiple teams are fighting UI politics over WinUI, MAUI on top of WinUI, React Native with WinUI, and classical UWP is not going away (Windows 11 Store is written in it), then ASP.NET team is…

This is M$ doing its tik-tok releases. XP - decent Vista - horrorshow 7 - alright (compared to vista) 8 - horrorshow 10 - alright (compared to 8) 11 - horrorshow Personally I will never use it unless I really need to and then kicking and screaming but that is my observation.

Vista SP2 was better than 7.

At least Vista had a real start menu. Yeah, early Vista was rough, but by SP2 all the problems were fixed.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by NtGuy25 »

I really like Windows 11. Hyper-V has some MASSIVE updates which noone talks about, as well as stuff like the network stack being rewritten. It's better to view this as a Windows 10 Refresh with alot done behind the scenes and a new UI. Not much of this is talked about though, outside of really niche highly technical circles.

There's some false narrative about it which is bizarre.

Re: Windows 11: Just say no

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Post by wazzaps »

aqfamnzc wrote: post #156
hbn wrote: post #89

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Yeah Windows Search is useless. I'd recommend Everything[0]. Though, it's more for general file searching than searching for programs. Can't remember if it learns your habits and pushes them to the top or not. Regardless it's instantaneous and I almost never use the Windows search since I discovered it https://www.voidtools.com

Everything is pretty much the only thing I miss from Windows. Maybe paint.net too. I haven't found a suitable Linux equivalent for either.

fsearch replaces "Everything" for me
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