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Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Yes, Facebook's upper management is definitely not freaking out about Mastodon. However, from my own experience working at a large, somewhat ethically-challenged organisation (not fb), it would not surprise me in the least if they gently yet actively pushed down a competitor, provided it can be done discreetly.

There may be more reasons to see Mastodon as a potential threat. There's something of a different paradigm to it. First of all it is decentralized (federated), and anyone can spin up servers for themself or a community of users, set their own topic and rules (CoC, ToS) and connect with the larger social network (the Fediverse). Second of all this fediverse is based on open-standards and anyone can develop their own s…

uuhm going back to a time before the algos took over my timeline would be awesome.

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Mastodon is a “competitor” to Facebook the way a grandma doing middle school tutoring in her backyard is a competitor to Harvard.

Yes, of course, at least now. Yet, it does present a non-negligible risk, in the same way that some startups can become unicorns, or some college kids web project can become a global giant.

> Yet, it does present a non-negligible risk,

Negligible: so small or unimportant as to be not worth considering; insignificant.

The first page of search Mastodon results for me are all about a heavy metal band from Atlanta. Sounds like a negligible risk to me.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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FB can ban whoever they want as long as it is not a protected class. FB can ban you because you like to eat broccoli or for whatever any reason. Many people support this idea during trump's ban. So you will just need to suck it up.

Political affiliation is a protected class where FB and TWTR are headquartered. Considering the overwhelming majority of Republicans remain on the platform, it seems the removal had nothing to do with class.

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Facebook has a blacklist on competitors, facebook wants to control the narrative, there is a reason your feed isnt by timeline, its artificially controlled. Same thing happens on youtube, twitter, etc. I've been using addons and rss feeds to go back to time/date ordered feeds, so I don't miss things I want to follow. You can use RSS feeds to go around soft censorship, using apps like IFTTT, etc. Pockettube addon for…

The naivety in here is astonishing. "The AI just messed up". Facebook's entire existence is 1) identifying the smallest details in information 2) buying up small competitors before they are an issue.

Exactly, don't accept "blame the algorithm" excuses. Facebook/Google/Twitter has entire departments working on tricking and controlling people with psychology. If they can bend you to their narrative, it's great for Advertising, voting, etc.

The whole hacker/programmer community is/was freeing information, never trusting governments or mopolies. Culture sure has changed.

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No doubt - but there was also a big move of Gab and some other more right wing communities to Mastodon I think at one point - be curious to know if the Mastodon links are all showing as high scoring in whatever generic facebook system is being used. Could easily imagine some involve links to stuff facebook isn't interested in pushing.

Gab and Torba are awesome. Crusaders against the tech hegemony

Well they already realised that early and so they built their own social networks and they are still up and running today. This 'censoring' should be unsurprising to everyone here.

I thought what happened to alternative social networks was a warning to show that not only they can do it to anyone but it shows how anti-competitive they really are.

What happened here to this person mentioning Mastodon is no different but was like 1% of what Facebook and many other private platforms can really do.

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I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

What is the violation? I'm serious. If I post a link to a target product page on walmart it will be taken down. I'm sure amazon does the same. Do business have to allow you to promote their competitors? Such a weird thing for regulators to be chasing - there seems to be so many more obvious issues than this. Is this a political winner - in other words, does the average person think I can put of Burger King flyers in…

Facebook is an entirely different kind of business than Walmart or Amazon.

Facebook (and social media in general) is essentially a public forum and comes with the expectations of such since these companies control such a large part of internet discourse.

If all of them said "we won't allow anyone to talk about any of our competitors on our site" then it strikes me as a company using their dominance to silence other players in the market, i.e. anti competitive behavior.

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FB can ban whoever they want as long as it is not a protected class. FB can ban you because you like to eat broccoli or for whatever any reason. Many people support this idea during trump's ban. So you will just need to suck it up.

Weird take. People's concern here is that this sort of behavior is anti-competitive, enforcing rules that applied to everyone re: inciting violence is pretty different.

Seems odd to think that folk have to support a generic action rather than how that action is done. Like, there are people who like baseball but would probably be a bit upset if you randomly threw a ball at them at 90mph in the middle of the street despite them being really supportive of it in a different context.

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Tell me more about what happened at your Facebook interview

They asked a lot of really senior-level questions about B-trees. Since I tend to use hashes instead of B-trees for my data structures, I was caught completely flat footed. To interview for Facebook, study B-trees like crazy (no, the recruiters did not warn me about this). Also, after the interview, the recruiters at Facebook I was in contact with completely ghosted me. Very rude.

A recruiter explicitly told me to study trees and related algorithms and even offered an FB study guide. However this happened after I told them I didn’t do game show style interviews. YMMV.

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So Rolf Degen argues that filter bubbles aren't a problem, and if you think they are, then it's because you're a "political junkie" trapped in one. That's some pretty twisted logic mixed with a nice helping of poisoning the well. I guess political junkies would never do anything crazy like assault the capital building to prevent certification of an election result. Yep, nothing to see here. I'm going to adopt this st…

A couple of boomers went on an unguided tour, unarmed. I didn't know insurrectionists tended to leave their guns at home

Almost every photo I've seen of the event has not been "a couple of" anyone nor largely "boomers".

On a similar note, I somehow doubt if people broke through the doors to enter your home, assaulted people trying to protect it, yelled about how they want you dead, and then took some of your stuff you'd be calling it an "unguided tour".

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