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The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by version_five »

enumjorge wrote: post #156
bufferoverflow wrote: post #81

It's interesting to see the comments from people who supported Youtube/Twitter/FB/Patreon/Visa political censorship, but are suddenly against the porn censorship by the payment same systems. "Rules for thee, but not for me."

> people who supported… political censorship That’s a pretty loaded statement. It’s strange to me that someone can take a provable fact (e.g. COVID-19 is real), politicize it, and now spreading that misinformation is painted as political speech that should be protected.

Right, the "other people should stop politicizing it and just do what I say" argument

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yawaworht1978 wrote: post #188

The banks do this as counter measure to human behavior, eg. Spouse , wife, family finds out about porn payment and then the people deny they have made the payment. Or sometimes an unauthorized family member or friend uses it to pay porn. Another scenario is porn pages doing dodgy monthly subscription charges. All these lead to chargebacks. It's simply not worth it for the banks, it's bad for everyone involved. It hap…

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Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by mgh2 »

pessimizer wrote: post #25

The reason the banks, and through the banks OnlyFans, attack sex is because they are accountable, and don't wish to take risks unless they are very profitable risks. The real danger of platforms and banks is how happy they are to censor for the government, or simply the loudest, richest mouth, in order to keep the profit flowing. If you want to fix it, you put in legal protections for people to do business, rather th…

This sounds like anti-bank/centralization propaganda.

Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by Kiro »

coding123 wrote: post #175

Isn't this what we made btc for

It is but people on Hacker News refuse to acknowledge this because they are angry that they missed out. Techies "who should have known" are embarrassed and jealous so they do everything in their power to dismiss BTC.

Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by luckylion »

Smashure wrote: post #108
anon19876 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, yes, the “Christian Taliban” that is beheading those that disagree with it in broad daylight and broadcasting those beheadings to the rest of the world. Here’s a tip: if you want to be persuasive, try using a little less hyperbole. There may be a point to be made here about the influence of organized religion on U.S. laws, but you’re alienating even those who would be willing to listen to your point by drawing su…

I see someone already put a link up, but extremism is extremism and the Christian extremism in the U.S. parallels Islamic extremism quite a bit. Including openly murdering those you disagree with.

This feels like "yeah, gang crime is kind of like the Holocaust -- people die".

There's really no similarity, and pretending otherwise is just trivializing the Taliban.

Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by refurb »

ashtonkem wrote: post #51
pessimizer wrote: post #25

The reason the banks, and through the banks OnlyFans, attack sex is because they are accountable, and don't wish to take risks unless they are very profitable risks. The real danger of platforms and banks is how happy they are to censor for the government, or simply the loudest, richest mouth, in order to keep the profit flowing. If you want to fix it, you put in legal protections for people to do business, rather th…

The issue is that the banks all move in lock step, undermining the basic principle of the free market. If one bank decides it doesn’t want to deal with porn, fine. But when all the banks decide that, that’s very very bad. The cumulative effect is a chilling of protected speech in a way that congress could never legally get away with.

This is not unique to banking in the least. It’s pretty typical for most industries to follow a company that does something the others want but don’t want to be the first one to do.

Price increases are a great example. One company will take an increase and most follow.

And how is this chilling of protected speech? The constitution guarantees free speech, not payment for speech. There is nothing stop these workers from sharing their content/speech.

Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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Post by polote »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #81

It's interesting to see the comments from people who supported Youtube/Twitter/FB/Patreon/Visa political censorship, but are suddenly against the porn censorship by the payment same systems. "Rules for thee, but not for me."

> It's interesting to see the comments from people who supported [..] but are suddenly against it ...

I hate this argument, it is so easy to say: people were against before and they are in favor now. Without proving that the people who were against are the SAME people that are in favor of it.

For example, people wanted mask at the beginning and now they don't wear them. People support Facebook censorship but are against when it is for porn. People wanted a vaccine but now they dont want to take it. People protested against motorbike sounds yesterday and they protest in favor of motorbikes today

Sorry but what tell you that they are the same people ? Without that this is just wrong

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Post by artiszt »

LMYahooTFY wrote: post #185
pessimizer wrote: post #25

The reason the banks, and through the banks OnlyFans, attack sex is because they are accountable, and don't wish to take risks unless they are very profitable risks. The real danger of platforms and banks is how happy they are to censor for the government, or simply the loudest, richest mouth, in order to keep the profit flowing. If you want to fix it, you put in legal protections for people to do business, rather th…

How does this narrative fit in with banks who've laundered obscene amount of money for murderous cartels?

besides fall short to cut ties with betting cartells more than likely to be associated with so-called organized crime syndicates

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TeMPOraL wrote: post #117

There's this common meme of blaming anti-sex-work sentiment on some bloc of US Evangelicals who secretly rule the Western economy and politics. Because surely, it couldn't be the market speaking out against adult material? Here's an alternative hypothesis: between those anti-sex fundamentalist religious groups (Christian or otherwise) and people who absolutely love everything sex-related, there's the vast majority of…

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Re: The real OnlyFans scandal is the unaccountable power of platforms and banks

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TeMPOraL wrote: post #117

There's this common meme of blaming anti-sex-work sentiment on some bloc of US Evangelicals who secretly rule the Western economy and politics. Because surely, it couldn't be the market speaking out against adult material? Here's an alternative hypothesis: between those anti-sex fundamentalist religious groups (Christian or otherwise) and people who absolutely love everything sex-related, there's the vast majority of…

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