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Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#191

Post by puchatek »

Ansil849 wrote: post #33
azinman2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? Yes. Some of us don't like being assaulted with sales pitches everywhere we look.

You conveniently skipped the rest of his comment which was really the important part...

There is no need to state the obvious. Nobody would miss any kind of advertisement in the media they consume but that doesn't answer how content creators are supposed to be compensated for the effort they put in.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#192

Post by nextlevelwizard »

azinman2 wrote: post #27
banana_giraffe wrote: post #11

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

If the products where A) relevant B) good.

How many youtubers have you seen shilling out raid shadow legends? They all praise it like it's the next coming of Jesus while everyone knows that the game is absolute garbage.

How many times will I get ad for NordVPN? Why would I use such a widely known and blocked VPN for streaming services? It is literal noob trap.

Worst is the reybud or whatever ear buds. Everyone says how good they sound and how amazing they are, but realistically if a brand comes out of nowhere with no other products what are the chances that they are good or even decent?

All of these are terrible sponsor ads for me. All they do is annoy me and waste my time. At least many video makers I follow have the decency to somehow indicate in the video how long the ad will go on so it is easier to skip. Only reason I don't use the automatic extension is that anyone can mark any segment of any video as an ad and it will be automatically skipped and I don't like that idea. Maybe if it was just some friends who I trust.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#193

Post by skinkestek »

saghm wrote: post #168
sen wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I pay for YouTube premium but still see them. That’s not OK, especially when the creators make 10x more money off YouTube Premium users than from ad-based users. YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users. As for why downloading, I download any/every video I find useful so I don’t have to go back to YouTube to watch it later. Everything from blender tutori…

> YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users I have to imagine it wouldn't be long before some clever sponsor offers extra money not to mark their sections...

Solution: a report ad button for Premium subscribers.

Once a significant (number && percentage) of users report it kt is flagged,

- first to the creator

- and then shortly afterwards - if the creator does not either fix it or verify it - to a review team or even to a customer panel

Some logic can be applied to filter out abuses of the system by:

- looking for reports by new viewers of this channel (brigading)

- dismissing / less weighting for people who have previously attempted to abuse the report button

- look at the clustering of reports in time

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#194

Post by nextlevelwizard »

path411 wrote: post #146
lawl wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die

This is pretty much same thing as other websites in general. While the content is entertaining and good enough to watch it is not consistent enough to pay for.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#196

Post by nextlevelwizard »

kadoban wrote: post #148
path411 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die

Why not just throw some money at their patreon, or buy some merch? Fairly sure they'll get more of that anyway.

I'd be willing to pay 5€/mo for ad less youtube. That can't be achieved by patreon in any shape or form and youtuber merch is pretty cringe.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#197

Post by nextlevelwizard »

azinman2 wrote: post #62
lawl wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

> I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

There are plenty of youtubers who do videos as a hobby with no money and the videos still are amazing. Then there are plenty of youtubers who only make 10 minute videos so they can get as many ad breaks as possible and add sponsor ads in the videos and the video quality and content is just terrible.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#198

Post by ehsankia »

krick wrote: post #126

I know it sounds incredibly picky, but given it's supposed to be a drop-in youtube-dl replacement, it's quite annoying to suddenly change the name to something as hard to remember as yt-dlp instead of, say, youtube-dlp. I will be mixing it up every time I'll google it, I guess. Not to mention it messes with naming scheme of bash scripts and aliases I already have.

Honestly, I think they should've fully changed the name while at it. youtube-dl is such an antiquated name that doesn't even fit the tool anymore, as it now supports thousands of sources.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#199

Post by NotEvil »

xmprt wrote: post #188
Tistron wrote: post #64

For me, something like this is exactly where Deno would shine. I could just run `deno run --allow-net=YouTube.com --allow-write=.` and not worry about that it could do anything dangerous. Probably the url list would be a bit more complicated, but I could also just blanket allow net without worrying, since allow-read isn't needed.

Do you know if generic sandboxing tools exist? I feel like it should be possible to use Docker and some sort of Firewall to isolate your running application from your system if you're worried about it accessing things that it should be able to. And that way you don't need to worry about using deno or relying on the program being written in a certain framework/language.

Firejail?

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#200

Post by f1refly »

skinkestek wrote: post #193
saghm wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users I have to imagine it wouldn't be long before some clever sponsor offers extra money not to mark their sections...

Solution: a report ad button for Premium subscribers. Once a significant (number && percentage) of users report it kt is flagged, - first to the creator - and then shortly afterwards - if the creator does not either fix it or verify it - to a review team or even to a customer panel Some logic can be applied to filter out abuses of the system by: - looking for reports by new viewers of this channel (brigading) - dismi…

Why not just use the original sponsorskip at that point?
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