Yes, of course he's losing influence seeing as how he's haemorrhaging listeners - like me - who do not want to get Spotify only to listen to Rogan. He often has interesting guests, he has no problems trampling all over the boundaries of correctness (which I deem to be a good thing) but he should have realised that there is a large overlap between the group of people who might be interested in listening to such conversations and the group of people who do not want to feed the Big Data Beast by installing and running apps like Spotify. I listen to a lot of netcasts using my own aggregator (based on Airsonic) which can handle anything which is available through an RSS feed. Spotify does not integrate with this system which means that Spotify-only content simply will be ignored - there is enough competition on the netcast market after all.
Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley
Milo Yiannopoulos is a self-proclaimed white supremacist, that offends more than "the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley," it offends everyone that's not a white supremacist. Alex Jones testified to being a performance artist and hosts a talk show purely to hawk merchandise. Does that really fit the mold of a thought-provoking podcast like Rogan's?
To be fair, Milo was pretty thought provoking.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some episodes are no longer available, as if Spotify wants everyone to forget that they even exist. Episodes featuring Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones etc. In other words, guests that offend the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley
Milo Yiannopoulos is a self-proclaimed white supremacist, that offends more than "the progressive attitudes of Silicon Valley," it offends everyone that's not a white supremacist. Alex Jones testified to being a performance artist and hosts a talk show purely to hawk merchandise. Does that really fit the mold of a thought-provoking podcast like Rogan's?
I would be thrilled if both of those people simply ceased to exist, but I think it's dishonest to delete and "forget" old episodes of a show because you later decide that the guests on those episodes were terrible people.
(I don't consider it material that presumably Spotify required deleting them as part of the deal. Rogan agreed to those terms, so clearly the money was more important to him.)
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#194Hearing "Exclusively on Spotify" on any podcast ad is a sure-fire way to make sure I never listen to an episode. One of the great features of podcasts is the flexibility in listening platform and I'd really rather not switch to Spotify's substandard user experience.
So true. I wonder if RSS could make a comeback if it were marketed as "podcast for articles".
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#195Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#196It's questionable whether online 'influencers' actually influence anyone beyond getting them to watch or listen to their show. What they definitely have is an audience, and that is valuable to the advertisers and marketers who do influence people, as well as prospective guests who want to promote themselves or a cause. I think influencers' main value for advertisers is acting as a magnet for certain demographics, pro…
If influencers didn’t “influence” then advertisers wouldn’t pay them. That’s all “influence” is. Just a dressed up name for marketing.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think that's accurate. Do you have some links or anything to back that up? Like actual transcripts, not some media interpretation. "People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said on the podcast. "But if you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no. Are you healthy? Are you…
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> the unvaccinated are screwing over the rest of us who are doing the right thing.
I'm curious as to what evidence you base that assertion on. Respectfully, can you explain your position there?
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#198I like Joe Rogan but yeah I didn’t follow him to Spotify. Can’t wait for him to come back.
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#199It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…
The ads on Spotify for paying US users is what keeps me off of it for the most part. You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass.
Their UX is awful too compared to a simple web app, they should just clone a basic Youtube/Odysee/Rumble functionality for their video side.
Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence
#200Maybe it's because an election concluded and all news-type media has dropped off considerably.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/551210-tv-news-ratings-on...