Do you guys not understand that Apple doesn’t really care about developers? You all are just a replaceable means to an ends. Everything they do is either for the benefit of Apple or it’s users. Stop whining about it.
My small revenge on Apple
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
So? Google can also cancel your account at any time for any reason whatsoever, and good luck getting it back unless you're a celebrity with connections or manage to make a big enough fuss about it on social media. Using the same logic, you should not use Gmail then.
Exactly, you should not use Gmail then. But that's off-topic.
It isn’t though, because the developer had no problem offering that as a social login.
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#193> For example, I am absolutely sure that Groups would have had loads of more IAPs had I been allowed to offer Paypal on top of Apple Pay and what not
hm. I can't see it as a bad thing that there weren't a ton of additional IAP micropayments in an app.
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#194This is a perfect example of why Sign in with Apple is so great: it hides my e-mail and real name from people like the author who are clearly intent on using this information to sell me stuff I don't want.
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#195I just wish we'd move on, skip the next 10 years of this and end up where this will likely go, an "open" standards of sort where you have a unified ID system that allows you to connect your different accounts with different providers.
Working in academia where OAuth2 is now (finally) being pushed heavily by certain converts who look upto "big tech" as having all the answers. It's annoying obvious to the people having to work this however that big-tech in this case is way behind where they could be in this regard.
It's not "simple" there's always money and power which the article alludes to, but as a user, I just want my account of "me" where I can use secure tokens issued from each authority once they've accepted that I'm probably me.
Until this is all resolved and unified a lot of this song and dance just reminds me I'm more and more the paying product for most systems.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget in your threat model that Apple can cancel your account at any time for any reason whatsoever. They've even done it to security researchers using Apple's own bug bounty program. If that happens, you are stranded with those accounts effectively inaccessible to you forever. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/04/20/man-sues-apple-fo...
So? Google can also cancel your account at any time for any reason whatsoever, and good luck getting it back unless you're a celebrity with connections or manage to make a big enough fuss about it on social media. Using the same logic, you should not use Gmail then.
> Google can also cancel your account at any time for any reason whatsoever [...] Using the same logic, you should not use Gmail then.
Actually, under that logic it's only that you shouldn't use the @gmail.com domain; it should be fine to use Gmail with your own domain, since that allows you to recover if your Google account is canceled (just change the MX to another email provider).
Another thing you can do is to never use your Google account for anything other than email; that should reduce the chances of the account being canceled for no obvious reason. For instance, it's been reported that, if you used your Google account for Youtube, and Google decided your real name was not your real name (which it wanted due to the Google Plus integration with Youtube), your whole Google account could be canceled; that risk could be avoided by just never logging into Youtube with your Google account.
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I'm the opposite. I NEVER use a third party login, my it be Apple, Google, Facebook or whatnot. If your website/app doesn't offer their own independent login, I don't even think once whether I really need it.
Agreed, it screams two things to me. First that the company is supremely interested in collecting my personal information beyond what I would normally expect to provide. Second that they’re just too lazy to implement their own user system. Neither is a good thing
Why would a developer spend time implementing a user system if they can use a good third-party one?
If I were to write an iOS app, I likely wouldn’t. I don’t trust myself handling that kind of thing securely.
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#198I just wish we'd move on, skip the next 10 years of this and end up where this will likely go, an "open" standards of sort where you have a unified ID system that allows you to connect your different accounts with different providers. Working in academia where OAuth2 is now (finally) being pushed heavily by certain converts who look upto "big tech" as having all the answers. It's annoying obvious to the people having…
Is this year 2000? Because pretty sure someone tried OpenID a decade ago and that was replaced.
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Because dev experience isn't what my post was about. I don't agree with some of the ways Apple treats developers, but I mostly agree with how they treat users and I genuinely like (MacBook) or at least understand and respect (iPhone) their products.
What happens when Apple stops being on fire, and you are trapped in their ecosystem and can't get out? I won't argue that Apple makes the nicest and most comfortable golden cuffs, but in the end they're still chains.
> trapped in their ecosystem
How so?
I think I could easily pull all my data out. Files are, well, files; contacts and calendars can be exported in standard formats; photos are stored as JPEG or raw; music is MPEG-4; e-books are epubs; whatever.
Sure, I'll lose some features, but that's because other platforms don't offer those features, not because Apple is heinously putting extra effort into locking up my data.
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#200Will David beat Goliath? We'll find out...