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Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#191
Been on firefox since it was firebird.

It feels like a no-brainer for me. I'm never going to use chrome unless I have to.

I use a lot of google products, but I see no reason to give them even more data on my browsing habits by using their browser.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#192
Firefox threads are ways the same: self proclaimed power users complain about minor changes to colours and shadows. That's been going on since v4, which was what, a decade ago?

So, my takeaway is that Firefox has become a punching bag for people to vent on. Sad state of affairs. Especially because it would be really hard, if not impossible, for Mozilla to shed this image

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#196
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Former Firefix advocate, after the plugins breakage and senseless ui changes I had to check out. Kiwi on mobile from an HN recommendation

Same. I was 100% FF until they broke my AD blocker on iOS. The internet is unusable without it, so I switched to Brave. I do align philosophically with OSS, and community organization, though, so I may switch back at some point. I do think Mozilla’s executive team needs a real shakeup, though. Edit: haven’t heard of Kiwi. Looks interesting. Why’d you land on that vs Brave or whatever else?

I was under the impression that Apple doesn't allow ad blockers but only request filters that are maintained by the OS and have an upper limit. How can one browser be better than another if that's true?

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#197
post #24

Each to their own. I'm a happy Firefox user and will continue to be on all my devices (including my phone which I'm writing this now with)

I am too, but I have telemetry disabled since their stunt with the Mr Robot extension they installed remotely for everyone [1]. I also run uBlock on both desktop and mobile. I am one of the 50M users counted as lost?

[1]: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-back...

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#198

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If you want to customize your browser (as far as using your own CSS) you can try Vivaldi. I've been using it for years and after the 3.7 update it feels fast and snappy (at least on my computer). It has tons of custom settings around tabs, commands, windows, toolbars, etc. At least on Linux it gets out of my way quite nicely. Things like easily accessible Profiles help me quite a lot with my workflow. If you're reall…

If there were someway to sync Vivaldi with an iOS browser, I'd have already switched. I've really been quite impressed with it, and it seems better every time I check, but I get a lot of use about the cross-device features of Firefox/Chrome, and while that's possible on Android, Vivaldi still don't have an iOS version.

I have around 1000 bookmarks and sync does really help. Since Brave has an iOS version I just use that but I hope someday they will release it.

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

#199

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Google, yes. But Microsoft? I haven't noticed, and I'm on Office 365 all day (my client uses that) while running Firefox / Linux. Microsoft does keep asking me to use Edge on my Windows gaming machine, although it's the only browser I have installed... But I guess the point is... where is Mozilla going to ask people to use Firefox?

But Microsoft? I haven't noticed > Try installing firefox (or even chrome) on a clean install of an updated windows 10.

But that's a Windows thing, as opposed to "on the web", right? And as I've said, Windows bugs me about edge even though I've never installed anything else — the "use the recommended edge something or other".

Whereas Google bugs me on all my machines (Mac / Linux / Windows, all without Chrome).

My point was that using Firefox on Linux, I've never seen anything related to edge on MS sites (but I only use Office 365, Azure and, sometimes, the docs site).

Re: Firefox lost 50M users since 2019

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That's my experience too. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible for complex standards to be well specified in human language instead of in code so a reference implementation is what will always win in the end. At least chromium is open source. The best we can hope is maybe that organizations adopting chromium other than Google can wield more influence over it. As I point out here https://news.ycombinator.com/item…

> complex standards to be well specified in human language instead of in code so a reference implementation is what will always win in the end. > At least chromium is open source. That source code is 12-15 million lines of code. They implement literally thousands of specs. Chrome adds 40-70 new web APIs [1] with each release which happen roughly once every 40 days and contain god knows how many code changes. Good luc…

>That source code is 12-15 million lines of code.

Exactly, it's impossible to describe that in human language which doesn't have precise enough semantics. That's why the spec has to be in code, in the form of a reference implementation and/or test suit.

The goal should be to move chromium away from being controlled too much by Google.

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