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Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by Aerroon »

satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

>* A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup

I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by symlinkk »

mpfundstein wrote: post #189
silicon2401 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

just get Pro

No. Why am I paying a company more money to fix a problem they caused? I think I’ll just get a Mac.

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Post by shp0ngle »

hoopleheaded wrote: post #190
silicon2401 wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

Android does not require a Google account, I’m not sure about Apple and iOS but I think also not?

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Post by sonofhans »

Iwan-Zotow wrote: post #164
sonofhans wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they learned their lesson very well. Microsoft suffered little for bundling Internet Explorer into Windows. The court case cost them some time and money, and in return they made no substantive business changes, and shut out browser competition for years. They had a plan and it worked. Why shouldn’t they do it again?

it worked?!? they pretty much lost browser war to chrome and safari

Yes, it worked, and far longer than most corporate initiatives do. The antitrust trial was decided in 2001 and Chrome didn’t launch until 2008. Microsoft owned the pathway to the Internet for Windows users for a solid decade.

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Post by 72deluxe »

partiallypro wrote: post #78

One thing that stood out to me as missing, was a file explorer demo. Have they just given up on revamping that?

Let's hope it wasn't as bad as the "revamp" in Windows 10 where that dumb ribbon replaced a usable toolbar for good, where Quick Access apparently was necessary because obviously the file directory listing wasn't obvious enough...

And pressing tab to get to the other pane now gave focus to the list header when in details view, forcing you to press tab 30 times to get between the left and right panes.

I think the most useful Explorer version was the Windows 98 one or possibly XP, but it went downhill in Vista.

Let's hope they had a change of heart and just reverted to that old version!!!

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Post by yellowfish »

MajorBee wrote: post #156
zeusk wrote: post #25

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safari/iMessage/Facetime/Maps or every default app on iOS? or any preinstalled and uninstallable app on Android?

Neither iOS nor MacOS are dominant in their respective categories. You can argue that the right metric to look at is market share by revenue and not by devices sold, and iOS does increase its footprint significantly at 42% of global smartphone revenue [1] (cementing itself as the single largest player), but still, arguably, not monopoly levels. I couldn't find a similar figure for the Desktop OS market, only (what I…

It's just teams replacing skype and easy enough to disable, the issue with IE was strong arming I doubt Microsoft is going to strong arm slack at any other level.. same goes for Onedrive/iCloud

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by satysin »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #185
mdavid626 wrote: post #150

Hmm, nice improvements, but is it just me who doesn’t care about them at all? Most of them feels like change just for the sake of change, but not an actual improvement.

Not you, re not alone, and some of them (like no local accounts) seem like a step backward.

To clarify there are still local accounts in all versions. However to complete the setup a Microsoft account is required in the Home edition. You can then create other local accounts.

In other editions you can create a local account during setup.

In the leaked build it is possible to cancel out of the forced Microsoft account requirement in Home by closing the screen with a simple Alt+F4 however that may be changed in the final build.

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