That gif deserves an NFT.
Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
191–200 of 342 posts
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#192Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
With a maximum memory size of 8G it's a bit anemic so you likely wouldn't get that much life out of it anyway, hope you got the 16G version. Apple is pretty good at the planned obsolescence game, so getting the larger memory would at least help stave that off for a bit. I'm skipping these for now, I run Linux on all my machines and it typically takes a while for the wrinkles to be ironed out, and x86 has much better…
> Apple is pretty good at the planned obsolescence game Most other smartphone brands: hold my beer
Eh, my J5 from 2016 is still as good as new. Stuck in Android 7.1, though. Also, it was back then when you were allowed to swap your phone battery.
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
For Apple Laptops, more like 7-8, at least in the old days. Typically you would only replace them when they (gradually) became annoyingly slow for daily use. Agreed, I had to upgrade all of of my PowerBooks/MacBooks at some point with RAM and larger HDDs/SSDs. And my last Apple Laptop is from 2012 and I learned that Apple now drops support by the OS considerably earlier than in the old days (i.e. unecesarily early, m…
I bought a macbook air in ~2012 and it was unusably slow after a year. bought a thinkpad to put linux on after that that I'm still using today (although admittedly it's a bit of a wreck now - still, it lasted for 8 years)
The MacBook Air was not really a "high performance" machine to start with though - you can't compare that with a ThinkPad :)
And it was seldomly updated, so you could get very aged specs.
If you bought a MacBook 2011/2012 you would typically get an HDD and between 4 and 8GB RAM. Software requirements/demands sky-rocketed shortly after that. On a non-Air you could at least upgrade this yourself, which gave the machine new life ("just like new")
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mostly agree with your overall argument, but the "mostly" qualification goes along with a small but important correction: > The fact that ARM, an open-source architecture ARM is in no way open, it's fully proprietary. Unlike x86 it is not vertically integrated and is available for anyone to license all the way to the architectural level, and that's huge. But said licenses certainly are not free either, nor Free. Th…
SPARC is open and not only that Sun shared some actual cores that were used in production. I don’t know why Power gets mentioned but SPARC doesn’t.
Picking a CPU is not just about the CPU architecture. It is mainly about the ecosystem around that processor. ARM has a huge amount of IP, bus fabrics, compilers, operating systems, boot loaders, and people you can hire with knowledge of all of that. There are far more people out there with ARM experience than SPARC. I don't really see anybody interested in POWER outside of IBM and the chips they sell.
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#196Who else is excited that we are might revive the 80s Cambrian explosion of different system system and architectures? Back then there were so many options.
Hmmm... the chances for that are pretty slim I'm afraid. "Apple Silicon" is not a new system, it's just one of the large incumbents switching to another architecture (which is also not a first, this now being their fourth architecture, after 680x0, PowerPC and x86). In the desktop/notebook market, Wintel and Apple are firmly entrenched, with only ChromeOS and Linux challenging them - plus a few less significant OSes…
The original Apple I / II before the Macintosh used the MOS 6502 processor.
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#197The maintainer in that thread believes that the memory reporting is wrong.
I would find that highly likely, for some reason Activity Monitor is often flaky.
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not only is it an incumbent switching to another architecture; it's an incumbent switching to another incumbent architecture. ARM is older than PowerPC and almost as old as the Macintosh itself; it came out in 1985.
The 64bit Aarch64 ISA has very little in common with the original ISA from '85.
I gather that it's true that ARM hasn't been as good about backwards compatibility as some of its competitors, but was ARMv8 really so much of a jump from ARMv7 that one can't count it as part of the same line of processors anymore?
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every ARM licensee does this though; they license the core designs from ARM and add features (including additional instructions) around it to package into an SOC. It’s just that Apple has the scale to design their own SOCs instead of buying one from Qualcomm or Samsung.
Most licensees do not, in fact, add their own instructions.
Which most - there is most as in number of cores shipped, and most as in number of organizations who have a license.
The second I have no doubt you are correct - I know of several organizations that have licensed ARM just to ensure they have a long term plan to get more without the CPU going obsolete again (one company has spent billions porting software that was perfectly working on a 16 bit CPUs that went obsolete - there was plenty of CPU for any foreseeable feature, but no ability to get more). These want something standard - they are kind of hoping that they can combine a production run with someone else in 10 years when they need more supply and thus save money on setup fees.
The first is a lot harder. The big players ship a lot of CPUs, and they the volumes to make some customization for their use case worth it. However I don't know how to get real numbers.
Re: Animated GIF uses over 35GB RAM in Acorn on M1 Mac, likely due to memory leak
#200I remember gif bomb few years back on forums.
There was a zip bomb too...