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Re: 1Password for Linux

#191

Post by [deleted] »

dasil003 wrote: post #173
pier25 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is awesome. It's my current password manager after I left 1P. I spent hundreds into 1P before the subscription model, as their apps were expensive and got them on multiple OS and for family members. Then Dropbox decided (rightfully) that you shouldn't use your public folder to host websites, and 1P told their customers to either get a subscription or lose the online vault which is a critical feature of any…

It's slightly shocking how angry people get about companies going from one-time purchase to subscription. Like many software companies, 1Password made a business decision to focus on a subscription product. This strikes me as reasonable and naturally aligned with the customer expectation that this software be supported in perpetuity as OSes and browsers evolve over time. $5/month is not a crazy price to pay for a cri…

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Re: 1Password for Linux

#192

Post by rkeene2 »

itisit wrote: post #189
rkeene2 wrote: post #183

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I think we should move away from passwords entirely, the UX for that is often much better for users (and as a bonus, you don't need to worry about your password being compromised, or password managers).

What is the alternative you propose?

I think the universe is slowly standardizing on WebAuthn/U2F for this.

The US Government got rid of passwords in 2004 by switching to smartcards, and Google also did so in 2017 by switching to hardware security tokens.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#193

Post by harveywi »

itisit wrote: post #189
rkeene2 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we should move away from passwords entirely, the UX for that is often much better for users (and as a bonus, you don't need to worry about your password being compromised, or password managers).

What is the alternative you propose?

Hard drives are large enough nowadays to contain a whole copy of the internet. Instead of connecting to the internet to access the web, computers should serve up local copies of the sites instead. Then it is 100% secure and there is no more need for passwords or insecure WiFi connections.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#194

Post by octorian »

pseudalopex wrote: post #176
octorian wrote: post #86

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The functional uselessness of ALL site breach notifications from EVERYONE who will send them to you is something that pisses me off to no end. "Your Email was found in the data dump from the FooBarBaz.NET hack!" Okay, which site was this? Is there a password I'm supposed to change? Was it actually a password I stopped using 5 years ago, but is still floating out there somewhere? None of these questions are ever answe…

> Okay, which site was this? The site it said it was? > Is there a password I'm supposed to change? Do you have a password saved or memorized? Does the site have a link or form to log in? > Was it actually a password I stopped using 5 years ago, but is still floating out there somewhere? They can't be sure. Why not change it to be safe?

>> Okay, which site was this? >The site it said it was?

I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what sites fall under the banner of the "FooBarBaz.NET" dark web data dump.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#195

Post by rdschouw »

nemosaltat wrote: post #149
pier25 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is awesome. It's my current password manager after I left 1P. I spent hundreds into 1P before the subscription model, as their apps were expensive and got them on multiple OS and for family members. Then Dropbox decided (rightfully) that you shouldn't use your public folder to host websites, and 1P told their customers to either get a subscription or lose the online vault which is a critical feature of any…

Like OP, I’ve used 1P since the early 2010s. Its approachability (and the fact that I pay for it) finally convinced my family (SO/siblings/parents) to use a password manager. I love the native experience on iOS, and the full desktop version + browser extensions I remember being frustrated by the Dropbox loss, and I’m still frustrated that they seem to push 1PasswordX over the native apps. Other than that I’ve only ha…

I self-host using docker. It is very reliable including updates.

Transition is as easy as exporting your 1P database and importing it into BW.

Integration in IOS is very similar as 1P.

Overall, 1P's apps are more polished than BW. You notice it when you migrate over and after a while you forget about it.

There's one caveat and that is you've to pay BW $10 per year to get TOTP/2F AUTH support and offline support in the apps.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#196

Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

bwoodruff wrote: post #125
heleninboodler wrote: post #84

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According to this forum post I just found[1], they are "no longer advertising" the non-subscription mode, and they apparently will not directly answer questions about whether it's still sold: >> "We're no longer advertising standalone licenses" Does that mean "We're no longer offering standalone licenses"? > Membership [aka subscription-based] is the way forward with 1Password. It's really disappointing that their co…

We continue to sell licenses for each 1Password 7 for Mac and 1Password 7 for Windows. These licenses are available within the app when downloaded from our website. We would strongly recommend 1Password membership as that is going to provide the best experience, but if you’d prefer a license for one or both of those products they are for sale. We recommend memberships as they address a number of requests our customer…

As a standalone license customer for almost 10 years now, the constant responses like this and the deliberate non-answers on the forums really make me wonder how long I will continue to use 1password. I love 1password but I will not put my passwords in someone else's cloud.

It's honestly pretty insulting that every time this comes up, someone from 1password pops in to talk down to your customers and push subscriptions.

I understand the business reasons of why you want subscription revenue, but pretending that you're pushing subscriptions for the good of your customer is just so transparently false. It's good for your bottom line, just own it.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#197

Post by bwoodruff »

philsnow wrote: post #171
nemosaltat wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like OP, I’ve used 1P since the early 2010s. Its approachability (and the fact that I pay for it) finally convinced my family (SO/siblings/parents) to use a password manager. I love the native experience on iOS, and the full desktop version + browser extensions I remember being frustrated by the Dropbox loss, and I’m still frustrated that they seem to push 1PasswordX over the native apps. Other than that I’ve only ha…

> I’m still frustrated that they seem to push 1PasswordX over the native apps This is one of the things that pushed me to choose bitwarden over a 1password families subscription (even though I get the latter for free from my work). I don't like the idea of credentials living in a browser extension (or even in a browser). I'm not confident in the long-term security of the entire setup, especially with the "evergreen"…

Interesting! I honestly hadn't seen the perspective that we were pushing 1Password in the browser _over_ the apps. We may need to look at our messaging on that. Personally I think the best experience comes from using both in conjunction, especially with the new mutual unlock feature.

> I don't like telling my less-technical family that this extension is okay, but absolutely don't trust any other extensions.

I do understand this dilemma, but I'm curious how you reconcile that against things like the benefits of filling from the extension avoiding the system clipboard & key loggers, the inherent phishing protection that comes from 1Password only suggesting credentials on sites where the URL matches your items, etc.

Telling folks the 1Password extension is okay and others are not is the approach we take internally.

- Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux

#198

Post by steveklabnik »

dasil003 wrote: post #173
pier25 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is awesome. It's my current password manager after I left 1P. I spent hundreds into 1P before the subscription model, as their apps were expensive and got them on multiple OS and for family members. Then Dropbox decided (rightfully) that you shouldn't use your public folder to host websites, and 1P told their customers to either get a subscription or lose the online vault which is a critical feature of any…

It's slightly shocking how angry people get about companies going from one-time purchase to subscription. Like many software companies, 1Password made a business decision to focus on a subscription product. This strikes me as reasonable and naturally aligned with the customer expectation that this software be supported in perpetuity as OSes and browsers evolve over time. $5/month is not a crazy price to pay for a cri…

I've been thinking about this a lot about Adobe lately, specifically. I've been getting into video editing as a hobby, and the fact that I could use Premier for $20/month rather than the single time purchase of $800 or whatever it used to be is the difference between me being able to use it or not. And yeah, maybe in 40 months I would be spending more money, but there's no guarantee I wouldn't be spending money to upgrade at that point... and then once I started wanting to add in After Effects, Audition and Photoshop, $60/month for literally every Adobe product compared to what, like, $2400 for those four? And if I use any more things from the suite, it's still the same price. I was talking about this with someone the other day, and was like "Imagine telling 12 year old me that I would own a legal license of Photoshop because of how inexpensive it is."

(I am also a happily paying customer of 1password; I strongly prefer the cloud offering...)

And that's beyond the fact that, in some sense, this aligns the business needs closer to mine. It is easier and in some sense, more fair, for me to pay for the software while I use it, and not when I don't. On the business side, it's nicer too. It pretty much feels like a win-win all around, except for certain circumstances. But in the happy path, it's basically almost entirely strictly better.

I feel weird being on this side of this argument these days, but it is what it is.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by clircle »

philliphaydon wrote: post #51
clircle wrote: post #16

I've just switched to KeePassXC from bitwarden in the last month, and the experience has been pretty bad. My main complaint is that KeepassXC-browser can't recognize maybe 30-50% of login fields, and the autotype shortcuts seem to be broken in Firefox. Maybe I can switch to 1Password.

Why did you switch from bit warden?

My wife was spoked that all my passwords were in the cloud and asked me to start using a local PW manager.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#200

Post by paxys »

harveywi wrote: post #193
itisit wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the alternative you propose?

Hard drives are large enough nowadays to contain a whole copy of the internet. Instead of connecting to the internet to access the web, computers should serve up local copies of the sites instead. Then it is 100% secure and there is no more need for passwords or insecure WiFi connections.

1. No they are not

2. The core problem is still that you need to be able to communicate with others, for which you need to identify yourself. Where a site is served from doesn't change that.

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