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Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Do you plan to sell the prebuilt systems with linux preinstalled (or with no OS)? I have no desire for my money to go to Microsoft, and no desire for Windows, but the prebuilt model is intriguing to me.

Preloading a Linux distro is something we may do in the future. We've made the DIY Edition super easy to set up though for folks who don't want Windows in the meantime.

I will be on your wait list for the pro the moment I can order it with Linux preinstalled.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Framework founder here. Happy to answer any questions anyone has on the product!

What's the UEFI / secure boot situation like? Say someone's been considering a Purism machine, how does the Framework compare?

It's complicated. We have moving to an open BIOS on our roadmap (and doing so fits our mission really well), but we prioritized getting high quality, stable hardware out for this first iteration.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Framework founder here. Happy to answer any questions anyone has on the product!

Is it possible to run the laptop directly off AC power, bypassing the battery? Alternatively, is it possible to cap the battery charging at, say, 60-80%? Since one of the key aspects of the laptop is the longevity and serviceability of the hardware, I am curious how the battery health can be managed.

It is! You can actually unplug or take out the battery and still be able to run the system. Configurable charge limits is on our firmware roadmap, though unlikely to be available at launch time.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Hi, thanks for your availability and a cool product. I wonder if you plan to make the hardware spec (or parts thereof like the form factor) open source? It's nota deal breaker if you don't, but would be a big plus if you do (although more challenging from a business logic standpoint, but Red Hat seems to have done OK).

I recall reading previous HN thread where they said they were / would permit / encourage others to build compatible component.

Yep, that is right. We're releasing reference CAD and documentation under open licenses for some modules like the Expansion Cards to enable community development.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Framework founder here. Happy to answer any questions anyone has on the product!

What was the point of signing up for pre-order emails and following your launch if it was going to be announced everywhere at the same time? Your website is down and it was impossible to complete a pre-order checkout because of all the errors.

Sorry for the go-live shakiness. The website is up and running solidly now. We sent out the email to the mailing list this morning with the intent of letting folks get in and order as the news started to trickle out. In reality though, there was an immediate, massive influx of traffic (in part from HN) that brought down the website. Lessons learned for the future.

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Thank you very much for what you build. It's amazing, and will be the perfect replacement for my aging laptop. The only thing missing for me is an ethernet port (which I need to connect to the internal network at work). Do you have any plan to add it as an extension card ? If no, any technical reasons why not ?

Thanks! We are developing an Ethernet Expansion Card. Due to the size of the receptacle and magnetics required, it'll bump out rather than being flush like the other cards, but still more convenient than an external dongle.

Same here, I am looking for something that does have rj45.

Some dell latitude laptops have a connector that "packs" itself, making it slim enough to be buit-in, without bumps. Is this an option for you folks?

How much do you think it will bump out? Will the laptop be stable on an even surface?

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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We wish there was a standard too! We designed the mainboard in the Framework Laptop to be replaceable and upgradeable to future generations, along with the upgradeability of memory and storage. We've be developing new mainboards ourselves, and we'd love to bring in third party compatible mainboards too.

I would love to make an arm board. Would be cool if you could publish some sort of reference design EDA files with just the board outline and IO connectors populated.

If this goes anywhere let me know - I work on BSPs at Arm

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Thanks! Still sounds really good :). Is there a usb-c gpu that would be compatible? (edit: we'll see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27144085 ) I already replaced my battery 2 times, speakers once, wifi once. All was just so still possible on my 2016 laptop. I have an even older laptop with broken screen in use too. If only I didn't want to run a game every now and than :). I now wonder what to get next: - anot…

> If only I didn't want to run a game every now and than I hear surprisingly good things about remote options like https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/ which would avoid you needing the hardware at all.

Oh that's right. I had a mostly fun time with google stadia. My internet latency is just good enough, even for shooters. Some days it was playable, others it wasn't.

They do focus on AAA games though, which I don't want to afford as a casual player. I like multiplayer with friends so we usually play not to pricy or free things.

The only "single player" I'm hoping for would be MS flight sim, but even there I'd just sing a few hours, not more.

To me it feels like I should invest in a good machine with a GPU another time because:

- streaming games is just not ripe enough

- I'll keep the machine for >5 years. Good to have one bottleneck less and such long usage is worth some investment.

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edit: maybe I should look in to https://shadow.tech/

Doing some math: 5 years * 12 month * 12$ or subscription = 720$

If I'm generous and say my gpu only stays up to date 3 years: 430$

So I have 430$ at least to spare for a local GPU and for the first 3 years will have the better performance (lag, compression, internet-dependence) and for the last 2 years I can still think about renting for another 300$.

I'd say if I keep my current computer it's worth it, if I buy a new one anyways I should get one with a gpu.

uh oh, monthly pricing is 15eur

Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999

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Recent threads: Preparing for Pre-Orders! (Framework modular laptop) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27052468 - May 2021 (79 comments) The Framework Laptop - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26263508 - Feb 2021 (991 comments) There's also Framework’s repairable laptop is up for preorder, starting at $999 - https://techcrunch.com/2021/05/13/frameworks-repairable-lapt... (via https://news.ycombinator.com/ite…

Hi Dan, wondering if this thread should be merged in: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27143545
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