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Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by _carbyau_ »

ldoughty wrote: post #172
Hydraulix989 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a parent (yet), but I do wonder about how I would enforce some of the double standards -- I was playing DOOM at age 8 and looking at somewhat questionable content online (my parents had no idea), and I like to think that I still turned out somewhat fine. Would I really want to use my hacker-grade computer knowledge to enforce a parental control jail on my childrens' ability to consume this meaningful informat…

My own plan: shield them until they are old enough to understand the concepts of trust and respect.. then pull back the safety net, but maintain quiet vigilance (like montoring (read only) the dns queries or system logs, and maybe keep access time window restrictions). If that really want questionable content, it will be cat and mouse game. Build trust and respect... Give them enough rope to hang themselves... Occasi…

Depending on how you want to influence your kids interests, a friendly cat'n'mouse game might give them a very real education.

"No wifi access until you figure out how to spoof your MAC to this."

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by cyberpunk »

treeman79 wrote: post #187
cyberpunk wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s one thing I decided already not to do is spy on them. I could easily view his entire online life and sure maybe it would protect him somehow if he was getting into some really dark porn or talking to some pedophile or something, but it’s such a massive invasion of privacy I think I could never forgive myself and the justification is bullshit. There are no shortcuts to good parenting, spying on your kids traffi…

Tried that for a time with eldest daughter. Afterwards she went down hill fast. Tried looking into what she had been up to. Burned the dammed phone.

Shit you’re giving me the fear…

Edit: I mean… any tips?

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by _carbyau_ »

cyberpunk wrote: post #183
ldoughty wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My own plan: shield them until they are old enough to understand the concepts of trust and respect.. then pull back the safety net, but maintain quiet vigilance (like montoring (read only) the dns queries or system logs, and maybe keep access time window restrictions). If that really want questionable content, it will be cat and mouse game. Build trust and respect... Give them enough rope to hang themselves... Occasi…

That’s one thing I decided already not to do is spy on them. I could easily view his entire online life and sure maybe it would protect him somehow if he was getting into some really dark porn or talking to some pedophile or something, but it’s such a massive invasion of privacy I think I could never forgive myself and the justification is bullshit. There are no shortcuts to good parenting, spying on your kids traffi…

I see it differently.

I watch my kid at the park now. When he is older, he will get to go further with less intervention/overwatch on my part. Eventually of course go without me.

Same for online. At first I will be beside him. I will educate what to watch for, what the motives of the actors are and how to work with them. Baby steps.

Later, he will get to go online without me watching every move. But I will review DNS logs. And I will let him know I am doing so, preferably in front of him.

Eventually, he will go without me. Although I will likely have a traffic shaping thing so I can have some bandwidth too!

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by young_unixer »

aasasd wrote: post #186
codeulike wrote: post #153

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"? BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. ... Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

Meanwhile Windows is all too happy about overwriting any bootloader you may have with its own, if you happen to run its installation or, I think, even some disk-checking programs (don't remember if only `format` did it, or something `chkdsk`-related too).

That's why I keep Linux and Windows in completely different drives and disconnect the one that I'm not using.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by young_unixer »

annoyingnoob wrote: post #176

> I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model parent. Um, no, not a model parent. Draconian.

thatsthejoke.tar.gz

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by II2II »

mjburgess wrote: post #120
cyberpunk wrote: post #24

Ahahahaha. I remember (vaguely) pinging AOL's irc servers with hays cmdset commands and as a result my parents getting a letter to the effect that I was a computer criminal and we were on some 'blacklist' forever, fortunately this apparently blacklist didn't seem to be shared between ISPs so I was back causing chaos within days >_ And now here I am, mid thirties, children, and I wonder if I would let my kid play DOOM…

Exposure builds resilience. All shielding does is turn people into hysterics who cannot see through the artifice, and assume everyone is duped by it into being murderous zombies.

It depends upon the child. I've seen children who accept the world is nuanced and can be exposed to a bit more of it, and I have seen children who need to be shielded since they will either glorify or fear things that they do no understand. Know you child, then make a decision accordingly.

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by RicardoLuis0 »

daveslash wrote: post #75
bamey wrote: post #27

>If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "AMD", this is genuine cause for alarm. AMD is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. AMD chips are never so…

Check out the link "raising him well" -- If this really is from 2001, then I'm quite surprised that link is still valid...

the oldest snapshot of this story i can find in archive.org is from november 2003 (https://web.archive.org/web/20031114161830/http://www.adequa...) , but it seems that yes, it is from 2001

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by el_duderino »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #124
moolcool wrote: post #20

Covered by Martin Sargent of TechTV here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkLtXfsPqVQ

Thanks for that link. I have not seen a ScreenSavers clip in many years. I loved that show and watched it with my father. Everyone was in love with Morgan. What a strange, brief time when cable television could have a show dedicated to the internet and computing. I wonder where Leo Laporte is now.

Leo Laporte owns and operates a podcast network, TWiT.tv with his wife.

https://twit.tv/about/what-is-twit-tv

Re: Is your son a computer hacker? (2001)

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Post by treeman79 »

cyberpunk wrote: post #192
treeman79 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried that for a time with eldest daughter. Afterwards she went down hill fast. Tried looking into what she had been up to. Burned the dammed phone.

Shit you’re giving me the fear… Edit: I mean… any tips?

No social media.

It destroys mental health of many teenage girls.

No unsupervised texting.

Let them have friends at your place.

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