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Post by subpixel »

emptyfile wrote: post #109
tmearnest wrote: post #101

I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…

Here's a great channel I found in 2020 for techno mixes. Seems like its mostly folks from Berlin but there are a few big names also. https://www.youtube.com/c/H%C3%96RBERLIN/videos EDIT: There's craploads of content, a lot of styles, although I will observe that oldschool sounds have continued to come back in a big way in 2020. Rave, electro, acid. Here's my favourite party set from 2020. https://www.youtube.com/watc…

I lived in Germany in the 90s and early 2000s, loathed techno, and I must admit that bouncing around a dozen or so of these videos gave me a flashback of nostalgia for lost youth mixed with the same desire to escape the music.

No offense intended - divergent musical taste should be celebrated!

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Post by lodovic »

_bohm wrote: post #143
renaudg wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot to quote the "best" bit a few paragraphs later : >It's important to first explain the horrible template that ruined Trance music. Somehow a musical artform that devoted itself to hypnotic rhythms and spacey soundscapes became, inside of a decade, a mass produced assembly line McProduct for middle class Europeans (pejoratively known as Trancecrackers because they're white. Terribly, tragically, sunblindingl…

For someone who seems to have been around the scene for quite a while, you come off as woefully uneducated on the history of electronic music. Electronic music is and has always been an international phenomenon. Innovations happen due to cross-pollination of styles, not because specifically white Europeans "mature" it. The Techno that blew up in Europe was initially imported from African Americans. Jungle/DNB was bor…

Definitely. The influence of the reggae/dub music experiments of the 70s on both rap and EDM is underrated.

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Post by anthk »

Dowwie wrote: post #89

1978 Kraftwerk live performance of 2 songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdubMwbOndo Kraftwerk's first live recorded performance was in 1970: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWUiLJnEYJI How many people in the 1970 audience sensed that they were listening to something as significant as what it became?

Well, a few years later Jarré released Oxygene, so is not completely alien for that audience.

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Post by FuckButtons »

tmearnest wrote: post #101

I've been listening to techno (not EDM in general, Techno) since the 90s. It's definitely my favorite music for deep work; something about the tight repetitive loops is just perfect for concentration. Since the pandemic started I've been listening to techno mixes almost constantly in order to mask the noise from everyone else in my house. Initially, I found it difficult to find decent mixes since Techno has become a…

Just to pitch in a suggestion for anyone looking: NTS radio and boiler room both have a huge number of mixes by techno artists - generally speaking I find artists by listening to mixes on NTS and checking the track list and then find mixes by them on boiler room.

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

anthk wrote: post #106
the-dude wrote: post #69

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Except Ishkur is running his electronic music site since 2000. Which is basically since the beginning of time in internet terms.

That's nothing. Spain, 1999: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH9W5LRcVzk This was everywhere. Everywhere. People did their own remixes with computers at home. Everyone and their cat tried to do their first techno/trance song in High School. When "modern EDM" hit the US we have been listening to Techno/Trance since where, from 1992-1993? There were even official Techno/Trance remixes bought by everyone, too.

I really wish you'd stop with this smug condescension. You are utterly ignorant of the US music scene during this period, and in general, based on your comments.

You seem to be basing your views on top 40 charts and what was protrayed in media. It's true, techno and electronica only rarely appeared there in the 90s. That's because electronica in the US was entirely centered around clubs and raves. Radio was controlled by a handful of big labels that all had a specific intent to shape the market towards specific genres. So techno in the US never became a "factory" product.

But that doesn't mean we weren't listening to it. I grew up in Kansas in a smaller city. In high school we were going to jungle or trance parties just as often as grunge. All the big box book and music stores had substantial electronica sections. We discovered music at parties, via word of mouth, and by the latter half of the 90s, via the internet.

People have been listening to techno in the US continuously since its inception in Detroit. But we've been listening to a whole lot of other electronica subgrenes as well.

The kind of music in your link has never been popular with electronica fans here. We find it manufactured banal empty trash to be blunt. The closest to that style that's been popular here would be Oakenfold and the like.

You also misunderstand hip hop in one of your comments. It is not just popular with black Americans. It's been popular with Americans of all sorts since its inception. In fact hip hop essentially subsumed pop in the late 90s.

There's been a lot of exchange between hip hop and electronica in the US too, particularly due to both using the 808 a lot. The latest electronica fad, the revival of phonk, is another example. It's a fusion of trap with breakbeat techno. And it's yet another example of how electronica is fundamentally international, as the revival has been driven by russian producers like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smbiKaOAN3Q

I don't really know what you're trying to accomplish with your smugness, but to be blunt all it's doing is making you look both ignorant and prejudiced.

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Post by Applejinx »

nicholassmith wrote: post #122
laumars wrote: post #113

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Slam, Adam Beyer (Drumcode) and Chris Liebling (CLR) are all good places to start. They all have weekly radio stations. From there on you can follow an guest DJs who you like the style off. Also when did “techno” become an umbrella term again? I was possessed off enough when “EDM” was redefined as a specific genre (and such a lousy one at that).

If you like Slam then Reclaim Your City ( https://soundcloud.com/reclaim-your-city ) is a good one to go with it.

Reclaim Your City is fantastic! I've been listening to it for years. Endless totally techno sets from a wide range of DJs and a wider range of tracks, and they're all really expertly put together. Seamless is the rule, not the exception. It generally feels like it's one mad synthesizer boffin performing on a giant machine, rather than picking individual tracks to play in sequence. Rarely can you tell when they switch from one track to another.

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Post by radley »

npunt wrote: post #2

Neat article but completely unnecessary scrolljacking. If you pinch zoom in, you can't even pan around normally. Scroll down a bit and then tap the (also completely unnecessary) arrow in the bottom right, and it'll ever.. so.. slowly.. scroll you back to the top. The web gives bad designers too much rope to hang everyone with.

Beatport has been a UI nightmare since the SFX acquisition back in 2014.

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Post by tarsinge »

yowlingcat wrote: post #170
rchaud wrote: post #164

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I wish some of those humorous rants still existed. Music criticism now is so staid and boring. There are more paragraphs dedicated to the author's navel-gazing about their personal circumstances, than what the damn record sounds like. I even wish the elitism still existed. I used to go to Pitchfork, Coke Machine Glow and sites of that type to read about music that wasn't getting covered elsewhere. Now it's basically…

Don't get out your eulogies too prematurely -- let's not forget Anthony Fantano's meteoric rise in large part due to his Gordon Ramsay style critic rants! With that said, I do agree with your directional assessment, but I wonder if it's more due to economic and discovery forces (lower cost to production, discovery AND publication than ever before). That is to say -- I've found that while the sheer volume of mass-prod…

> so too has the sheer volume of rare, underground jewels

This. As for discovery, it's never been easier to find things by oneself. Bandcamp (nice place to bootstrap rabbit holes), Spotify artists playlists, Youtube channels, Subreddits...

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Post by radley »

Telekom has been running a fun "Name that Techno Tune" series on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfRh37c5lvivabQPDnLGR...

It's pretty challenging to play along.

Edit: I'll just add that these histories are always subjective and regional. This one seems to focus on "pure" techno, but overlooks artists like Ken Ishii and skips over the first peak techno era with Eon, Lords of Acid, Bizarre Inc, etc.

Edit 2: and no mention of Phuture's Acid Tracks? A crime I say!!

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Post by dpeck »

anthk wrote: post #139
mqp wrote: post #117

I'm pleased to see accuracy in the history of techno. I for one did not know it's roots took place back in the 70s and from the black community. These days when I look at techno artists and their raving followers, its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support. Many modern music fundamentals are origins from the black community and very little is correctly…

White European here (Spain). Black people in the US invented basically the three modern music roots: - Blues/Rock - Techno - Rap The problem is rap had much better marketing in the US, ditto with rhythm and blues in the 90's.

Can’t forget jazz there either.

And I’d argue that blues and rock are separate, but that most rock until late 90s was heavily influenced by blues. But that’s all just fun trying to draw lines where there isn’t a clear difference sometimes.

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