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Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clicked on your own ads

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> If there's a good alternative never use Google anything. Brave instead of Chrome. Duck Duck Go instead of Google. Proton Mail instead of Gmail. The only thing I haven't been able to replace is YouTube. That's a tricky one because it's the content creators that keep me locked into it.

Many content creators are starting to move to a Patreon+Twitch model, in addition to YouTube.

5witch and YouTube are very different functionality, you really don't want Twitch to be the main for source.

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I'd extend this even further: never use a single account for more than one purpose. Create a separate account at the same company for the other purpose. Some examples: - Every product/project you manage should be on a separate account on Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. - Nothing tied to your consumer accounts should be used for anything business related. - Your Amazon shopping account and your AWS account should defin…

For Google specifically, do not use one email address as a recovery address for another - both will be banned together. Also, do not share recovery phone numbers.

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I'd say - use any platform for what it's good at. Extract value from platform. Benefit from it, monetise it, let it help you to gather users or following. But NEVER rely on any propriately platform for your business. You're NOT in control. Make sure you have a contingency plan. Have backup (whatever it is for your business). Make sure you have direct, alternative contacts with your users if platform goes nuts.

> But NEVER rely on any propriately platform for your business. You're NOT in control.

This is just not possible for so many companies. Dating app, banking service, online shopping? Apps are how customers use your service. No app, no customers, no business.

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Works if you are only delivering live videos. I've never been able to get into Twitch because there is so much dead time without anything interesting happening. Patreon only works if you already have established fan base that is willing to pay for your content. It does not help with discoverability at all. Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it.

> Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it. For now. Rumble might or might not break through to mainstream. Same with those fediverse solutions for different reasons. Vimeo already works beautifully and is clean in every way AFAIK.

Except Vimeo is not really competing with YouTube, and has a strict restrictions on the type of videos it accepts.

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The biggest issue isn't Google ads. It's these automated App Store monopolies. Not only App stores, but services provided by any of these FAANG mega-corps.

You, as a customer, should have a right to speak with an actual person, to find out what the issue is, and to appeal. If you suffered damages due to a mistake on their end, they should be found liable.

This shit shouldn't even be legal in the EU.

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How on earth does google manage to still be one of the most valuable (in $$$) companies in the world with this kind of behavior. I just can't imagine treating my customers half as bad as the way google does and still continue to be in business. Abruptly dropping support for products[1], violating their user's privacy [2] , working with organizations accused of human rights violations. Each passing year it seems googl…

Are you serious with your question or is this hyperbole? When you hear about something like this you are seeing the one in a million false positive or more likely there was some fuckery going on. Obviously there is no upside for the banned devs to admit that they tried to abuse click rate on their ads, so unless Google comes forward admitting they made a mistake we will never know whose on right here. This still leav…

That argument could be, and has been, used to justify some terrible actions by governments and corporations.

While we may never know the full story in this specific case. What we do know for certain is that Google has a history of pulling the pin on services and products used by customers. Google's lack of customer support is also a well known feature of the company. These two facts suggest that the situation described in the article is likely to happen, and may actually happen fairly often.

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I winder if stories like that will ultimately be Google and other tech giants downfall.

The idea is that you can get banned, you will never know why, there is no way to appeal, they won't give you a chance to fix things, and the only contact you will have will be robots, or if you are lucky, people completely dehumanized by the corporate structure.

So simply, they are unreliable. Just like files stored in a hard drive. With the hard drive, you can lose data because of a power surge or a random bug, with Google, you can lose data because you ticked the algorithm the wrong way. The solution: backups.

But that's the problem. These tech giants value proposition is that they do everything for you, including keeping your things safe, and they charge a premium for it. But if they can kill your account any moment, they are no better than your unreliable hard drive, so why pay the premium?

If they don't change, I can see them slowly losing market share, companies start to understand that putting all your eggs in one basket is a bad idea. They may be attacked by smaller companies that, while also unreliable, are cheaper and more agile because of their size. Or companies that offer you real, competent people you can talk to.

By tech giants, I mostly mean Amazon, Google and Facebook, I think (without being sure) that Microsoft knows better, and Apple is mostly a hardware company.

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Legit question: is there any other service/company on earth that bans you for having multiple accounts? This seems like an insanely restrictive policy. One of the defining characteristics of internet communication is that you can have a “work persona” and a “home persona” and maybe another one for your hobbies, another one for your porn browsing and gambling, another one for your aunts and uncles. To deny this basic,…

Microsoft reportedly has internal one identity policy, Facebook is notorious for forcing people to expose, etc.

It would be so ridiculous for Microsoft to have a one identity policy because Microsoft software accounts are generally provided by employers and tied to them, I have 4 MS identities (personal, two companies and university) and MS does not provide an option to use a single identity for that.
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