Why I distrust Google Cloud more than than AWS or Azure

Post by ThatPlayer » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:03 AM UTC

nemothekid wrote: post #159

realityIsntHere wrote: post #51

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And the odd thing is that Google has been significantly better for consumers than other FAANG companies. Apple has historically been anti consumer and anti developer with a huge marketing budget to wash it. Facebook intentionally makes us sad. M$ and their anti competitive practices should be well known.

> Apple has historically been anti consumer What? Apple has been pro-consumer to the detriment of everyone else. Developers are still screaming that they aren't allowed to install malware on my iphone.

Post by bushbaba » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:14 AM UTC

asciimike wrote: post #61

shadowgovt wrote: post #14

I'm not sure what the author (or Yegge, for that matter) expect a good timeframe to be for deprecating services. Anecdotally, Google announced the changeover of Cloud logging API versions in October of 2016, with a 5-month ramp (October to March) to switch from the v1 beta API to the v2 beta API. Five months is nearly two quarters, which is quite a long window for a beta API IMHO. That having been said, Google's habi…

When I was doing deprecations on GCP, it was minimum 12 months for any deprecation. Five seems shockingly fast! As for the beta thing: GCP's definition of beta was basically everyone else's definition of GA, since the GA requirements were so insane (e.g. 99.999% internal availability) that getting there would take literal years (see the GCF beta to GA taking like 18 months?). I totally agree that it's weird that thin…

Post by Clewza313 » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:26 AM UTC

booi wrote: post #127

bassdropvroom wrote: post #119

While I'm not arguing the general point of the article, I will counter point one thing. > Will Google Cloud even exist a decade from now? This seems wildly speculative, and the likelihood of GCP, or its core offerings, not existing any time so soon is next to zero. Google has to royally fuck up for this to be the case, but even if it ends up being case, there will be a string of lawsuits lined up that will likely cos…

There were multiple companies forced off Google Maps because of a pricing change. This could absolutely happen and has happened before.

Post by miohtama » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:42 AM UTC

alephnan wrote: post #150

goodcjw2 wrote: post #104

[DISCLAMER: I used to work at Google in general, but not at Google Cloud] I'm not sure whether this has been discussed here before, but I'd love to take this forum to share an angle from the tech side of things: IMO, Google is _cursed_ to keep deprecating its products and services. It's cursed by Google's famous choice of mono-repo tech stack. It makes all the sense and has all the benefits. But at a cost: we had to…

I worked as a SWE at Google and also at Google cloud. I both disagree with this and find it a very perplexing angle. I think the issue is a mis-aligned (financial) incentive structure. With the right incentive structure, challenges in either monorepo or federated repo can be overcome. With the wrong incentive structure, problems will grow in both monorepo and federated repo. The choice of repo simply manifests the wa…

Post by throwaway3699 » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:47 AM UTC

bArray wrote: post #182

goodcjw2 wrote: post #104

[DISCLAMER: I used to work at Google in general, but not at Google Cloud] I'm not sure whether this has been discussed here before, but I'd love to take this forum to share an angle from the tech side of things: IMO, Google is _cursed_ to keep deprecating its products and services. It's cursed by Google's famous choice of mono-repo tech stack. It makes all the sense and has all the benefits. But at a cost: we had to…

> Would have save 90% of that person's time it it's on a sperate branch and we only need to focus on security patches. (NO, there is no such concept of branching in Google's dev system). I wonder if this is why you have so many different programming languages being used under the hood at Google? Essentially people using a programming language as a branch. If you're working on a completely different language in theory…