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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

#191
It did have me so concerned that I even had to check.

Turn's out I'm unable to create a Granny Know without putting a lot of effort into it. Only if I change the first stage I'm able to do it.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#192

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Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Check out the Backwards Brain Bicycle. Lots of fun. https://youtu.be/MFzDaBzBlL0

This is worth a watch, from Smarter Every Day.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#193

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After I stumbled upon this site years ago, the Ian knot is how I tie my shoes every time. The hardest part about this knot is making sure that somebody is watching while you do it. Every time I tie my shoes alone, I feel an upwelling of regret, as if there has been an opportunity lost.

Is this the shoe equivalent of arch linux?

As both an arch user and a ian secure knotter, i can confirm your suspicions.

(btw I use Ian's knot)

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#194

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Tried that knot and aside from taking several minutes for me to figure it out, it didn't seem to result in a knot that held very well. I'll stick with the standard way I learned 40 years ago and can do without thinking.

The end knot is identical to the standard bowknot, so it seems unlikely that this would hold any worse. If you're currently tying your shoes in a granny knot, I would be very surprised if that held better than a bowknot. I've used this method to tie all my shoes for more than a decade and it holds much better than the granny knot, which I'd guess is probably 50% of people (as whether not you end up with a granny or a…

Granny knots are easy to make while maintaining constant tension on the laces. Other techniques leave a moment where you relax the ends of the laces.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#195
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A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

Half Windsor is still more in fashion and still produces a neat, symmetrical knot. Beware, though, after learning a good knot you will see the four in hand knot everywhere and it will annoy you.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#196
Seeing the knot-making process in a flow diagram is certainly interesting, seeing that we (humans) can tie certain knots with our eyes closed.

When did we learn this behaviour? Does it indicate higher thought/intelligence? We teach our children to tie knots at a very young age, so knots must be important right? Which other animal can tie knots? Is knot making just another form of weaving?

And lets say we do build an AI that resembles human nature/consciousness closely, can it tie knots? Maybe an AI is only valid if it can introspect, love, hate, philosophize, do math and.. tie knots! What about knitting/crocheting?

Maybe weaving (knot-making/knitting etc) is/was just as important as discovering/understanding fire. Imagine our primate ancestors, just chilling in a jungle somewhere and weaved some pieces of plant fibers together and some lightbulb went on in their heads.. and they continued making them and adjusting them and found useful uses for them (or maybe they just enjoyed the pattern or the effect of pulling one string and the whole knot comes undone - Wow!).

Knots sure are interesting!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#197

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've been using the Ian knot for years now and every now and then (like once a year at most) someone will notice how quickly I tie my laces. It looks impossible for people used to the school method.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#198

If you want a conspiracy theory about it... I believe that power is passed along selectively to children, to help decide who the future elite are.... the "lucky" half are taught how to correctly tie their shoes... the other half end up with granny knots, which then signals to the elite this person is not one of them. I was one of the granny knot population, always having to stop and re-tie my shoes... fortunately I l…

Keep them peasants looking at the dirt!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#199
He should not have used 'granny knot' as the name of the bad shoe-tying method. A granny knot is a reef knot tied wrong, not the shoe tie, he even mentions it in the article. It would have been more appropriate to call it a 'granny tie' I think. I'm outraged. This is violence.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

#200
The granny knot is caused by the starter knot and main knot not agreeing with each other. If you find that you do granny knots, as I did, then you'll probably find it's quite hard to reverse the direction of your main knot. It's essentially learning to tie your laces again! It's much easier to reverse the starter knot. This alone will fix your knot.
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