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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by Can_Not »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #123
eitland wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us find the alternatives to be really really good compared to Windows. The only thing I should wish was that IT was (even more) supportive. Lucky us I guess. (FTR: Linux is as usual as Mac at work now. I've even seen a team lead and a sales guy run Linux!)

> Some of us find the alternatives to be really really good compared to Windows. Yeah, and some of us don't. A lot of us, actually. I personally get kinda sick of the arrogance of people who think they're above everyone else because they chose a different operating system.

Somebody just wants to choose their operating system without the whole market being coerced by a large hedgemonic monopoly and then you yell down from your ivory tower that everybody but you is arrogant.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#192

Post by rvieira »

rightbyte wrote: post #72
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Admittedly, it is awful and stupid. On the other hand, those of us who use it find the alternative to be even worse despite being free. Imagine what problems must exist with that alternative for this to be true.

When you buy a computer, or get one from work, it is preloaded with Windows. Windows is essentially "free", as in for most people there is no savings from not using Windows, like it is i.e. if you build your desktop your self. Linux is compeeting with effectivly mandatory prepaid Windows installs.

French courts disagree: https://www.pcworld.com/article/249340/lenovo_ordered_to_pay...

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#193

Post by senectus1 »

isoprophlex wrote: post #40
ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

oh Puh-lease....

we don't have to imagine it, this isn't new, this is the Status quo.

And we're all to enrolled/busy/tired to give a shit about it. just make the customizing changes and move on.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#194

Post by eitland »

Justsignedup wrote: post #37

Here's whats so odd here: - google can push chrome on people in their search results. and google pushed HARD. So hard they dominate the browser market and chrome is unfortunately not known for privacy. - google pretty much makes it impossible to get away from chrome entirely in android. Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. Even though everything else uses firefox for me. -…

Pushed extremely hard: no one else was allowed to advertise on the front page of Google, not even humanitarian organisations during the worst disasters as far as I know. Chrome were allowed.

Still pushing hard: if I open the gmail app on my iPad and click a link it pretends I need to choose a browser every single time it seems and one if the choices is always Chrome (that I haven't installed and won't install).

I've already been writing relevant authorities here (Norway) twice last year and I'll keep pushing.

The moment they kill competition, that moment ad blocking disappears.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#195

Post by scaladev »

neogodless wrote: post #165
wayneftw wrote: post #146

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I just do work stuff on my Linux machine and play stuff on my Windows machine. Couldn't be happier! I've been running Manjaro Linux on 3 workstations for over 2 years now and, as a web developer who does mostly Node/React/React Native, I haven't needed anything from Windows. The best part is not having to fiddle with Windows specific issues all the time. I have even worked on .net core projects with vs code and run S…

Definitely curious about the .NET Development experience in Linux. My past includes a lot of Visual Studio + SQL Server Management Studio, and I'll be working on some Azure data stuff in the future. For now I'll rely on Windows for that, but I'll still hold a small piece of my brain in curiosity mode.

It's fine. I use Rider, and work with databases through its built-in tools, which are pretty decent (the same functionality as their separate paid product DataGrip). I've never needed Windows in 4 years of doing this.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#196

Post by Toutouxc »

wayneftw wrote: post #187
Toutouxc wrote: post #125

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I don't get the question. You can only run macOS legally on a Mac, there's no other option. And any new-ish (ten years or so) Mac is able to download the latest supported macOS completely for free. So the OS is basically included in the product (just like a washing machine or a car) and upgrades are free.

Legally, you can run macOS anywhere you want. Apple cannot and has not stopped anyone from doing that. There is no court of law anywhere which will prevent an end-user from doing what they want with macOS. However, you most certainly are paying for the OS whenever you buy Apple's overpriced hardware. Perhaps the receipt does not state this fact, but we all know that the only way anyone will get macOS is if someone gi…

> Legally, you can run macOS anywhere you want. Apple cannot and has not stopped anyone from doing that. There is no court of law anywhere which will prevent an end-user from doing what they want with macOS.

I think you'll quickly find out that's not the case if you, for example, start a macOS VPS hosting company that doesn't use Macs or that lends them for shorter time periods than one day.

> Apple's overpriced hardware

This meme needs to die, now more than ever (because of Apple Silicon).

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#197

Post by tpxl »

Toutouxc wrote: post #196
wayneftw wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legally, you can run macOS anywhere you want. Apple cannot and has not stopped anyone from doing that. There is no court of law anywhere which will prevent an end-user from doing what they want with macOS. However, you most certainly are paying for the OS whenever you buy Apple's overpriced hardware. Perhaps the receipt does not state this fact, but we all know that the only way anyone will get macOS is if someone gi…

> Legally, you can run macOS anywhere you want. Apple cannot and has not stopped anyone from doing that. There is no court of law anywhere which will prevent an end-user from doing what they want with macOS. I think you'll quickly find out that's not the case if you, for example, start a macOS VPS hosting company that doesn't use Macs or that lends them for shorter time periods than one day. > Apple's overpriced hard…

>> Apple's overpriced hardware

>This meme needs to die, now more than ever (because of Apple Silicon).

This meme is relevant more than ever with the butterfly keyboards breaking all over the place.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

#198

Post by [deleted] »

Can_Not wrote: post #191
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some of us find the alternatives to be really really good compared to Windows. Yeah, and some of us don't. A lot of us, actually. I personally get kinda sick of the arrogance of people who think they're above everyone else because they chose a different operating system.

Somebody just wants to choose their operating system without the whole market being coerced by a large hedgemonic monopoly and then you yell down from your ivory tower that everybody but you is arrogant.

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

Can_Not wrote: post #191
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some of us find the alternatives to be really really good compared to Windows. Yeah, and some of us don't. A lot of us, actually. I personally get kinda sick of the arrogance of people who think they're above everyone else because they chose a different operating system.

Somebody just wants to choose their operating system without the whole market being coerced by a large hedgemonic monopoly and then you yell down from your ivory tower that everybody but you is arrogant.

Some people would like to use FreeBSD and other free Unix OSs without having to kowtow to Linuxisms too. It isn't the fault of Linux users that they have to do so.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by izacus »

local_dev wrote: post #129
izacus wrote: post #29

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The fact that they regularly "accidentally" reset the default browser or "suggest" Edge on my Windows 10 machine is probably helping those numbers a lot.

How often have you had windows switch your default browser? Genuinely curious as I've been using Windows 10 since release and have never had my default browser switched away from Firefox.

I haven't been counting, it happened a few times though - mostly after bigger upgrades or when they started pushing Edge with fullscreen ad.
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