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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by OJFord » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:20 PM UTC

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued.

uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc.

I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'.

After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also cover what I used to use uMatrix for) for a few weeks I think it's insufficient and nuTensor is the better option for me, but it quickly won't be if ~nobody uses it and it falls by the wayside.

Alternatively uBO could support the few details it lacks from uM? It seems like the problem basically was difficulty/time constraints in supporting both.. but I don't know why they were ever separate? There's plenty of overlap. If uBO had uM's granularity in 'advanced mode', that'd be perfect.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by throwaway09223 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

benjohnson wrote: post #40

temp0826 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox on iOS does not support extensions, fwiw

As I understand it, it's Apples fault for requiring all browsers delivered by it's App Store to be basically wrappers around Safari.

How has Apple not been strung up on antitrust grounds over this?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by EMM_386 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #81

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's. There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement: - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO. I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth. - The option to enable canvas perm…

> Pop-out videos (aka picture-in-picture) are awesome

Agreed on all points. It's funny, I've been using Firefox 20+ years and when I saw them recently boasting about PiP I thought "another useless feature".

Until I decided to try it out. Now I use it constantly.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by IronWolve » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:24 PM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #49

crocsarecool wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

FF with uBlock is available on android. Alternatively check out "Paprika" which bills itself as a recipe manager but actually will scrape webpages and extract out recipes for you.

And darkreader addon. Addons for firefox mobile is very handy.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Demiurge » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:25 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

I agree it's a shame, and I hope there is a legit replacement. However, it continues to work for me, so far, without issues.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by rattray » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:26 PM UTC

kitsunesoba wrote: post #37

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

On iOS, Safari with a couple content blockers (like Purify and/or 1Blocker) do a pretty decent job. Once in a blue moon something will get through, but the goal of dramatically improving load times and decrudding pages is accomplished well enough for me. On Android, Firefox supports a subset of extensions that includes uBlock Origin. Chrome seems to be the dominant browser on Android but regardless of how good it is,…

Firefox is my default browser on Android, and I use Chrome when I need to. It works fine.

I personally tend to use Chrome for "logged-in" internet use, and Firefox for "logged-out" use like browsing, news, etc. True on both desktop and mobile. Partly this is because Google's password vault has great UX across Chrome and Android apps.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by jamesgeck0 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:26 PM UTC

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

On iPhone you have Safari content blockers. Better Blocker and Firefox Focus are two popular ones.

There's also a Lockdown, an open source firewall implemented using iOS VPN capabilities (though it doesn't send your requests through an external server). Lockdown is able to block trackers in any app, not just Safari.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by jackewiehose » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:26 PM UTC

voxic11 wrote: post #27

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

> you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API

How? Is there a hidden about:config?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by jay_kyburz » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:28 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #58

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome. I also recently started using Firefox full-time on my work machine despite IT strongly mandating that all our tools only work on Chrome and everyone should use that. Have had zero problems (and we use every Google service under the sun).

On my own videogame Neptune's Pride, I have noticed that the performance of canvas rendering on Firefox noticeably worse on OSX and Plasma. I still use Firefox for everything though.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by surround » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 10:31 PM UTC

blub wrote: post #177

I started using Brave in addition to Firefox recently and I was curious if it supports this. Seems like it does ( https://brave.com/privacy-updates-6/ ) and uBlock origin was the inspiration for that feature. I never used uBlock, but I did use uMatrix (discontinued, but still working) which allows you very fine grained control over scripts and other resources based on the domain. Unfortunately it was a pain to get so…

Brave is Chromium-based and suffers from all of the limitations stated in the parent article.

(Except for CNAME cloaking. However, their CNAME uncloaking only applies to their built-in tracking protection. AFAIK, if you use uBo on Brave it will be still unable to uncloak CNAMES.)