What a BS article. How about we give advice and feedback that is... not sexist? Crazy idea, right?!
If you say things that are not sexist nobody will accuse you of sexism. Simple as that. And if you don't know what is and what is not sexist then most likely you are sexist. Then go and educate yourself on the topic, and don't waste time writing excuses on online forums.
Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up
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#192I think fear is making people in general just clam up. Anything you say can be taken as offensive and the crowds bay for blood.
I think it's now essentially a risk-reward decision, like the author said. And the potential risk of being ousted after being accused of something weighs very high.
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#193Reminds me of the phenomenon recorded of men avoiding women after the original #metoo thing. Part of this is that I think that men feel they are walking on egg shells. The kinds of male assertiveness that my wife found attractive when she met me also can leave women who aren't into this assertiveness feeling harassed. I feel that we need to be clear more about what is "desirable" masculinity it "desirable assertivene…
I guess there's going to be a calibration period. The pendulum was stuck, it's started swinging, and the first few swings are completely out of whack. We'll get there, eventually.
Some very real issue have been highlighted in the last few years, issues that we really should have dealt with decades ago and I think you're right, there's currently an overreaction from society. That's will correct it self, even if some may still not like where we end up.
Sadly if you're concerned with these overreaction, and voice those concerns, you will be labelled as being against the chance. You quickly learn to shut up and just wait it out.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
had to google what cis is: > A cisgender person (sometimes cissexual, informally abbreviated cis) is one whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was identified as female at birth is a cisgender woman. The word cisgender is the antonym of transgender.
Thanks, would have never known something so bizarre.
That comment might make sense a decade ago (when it was mostly relegated to academic journals)[1], but it's been in common use (at least in the U.S.) for years.[2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender [2] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cisgende...
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#195My first take on the article is that the author overestimates the impact and even the causality of an investor giving founders advice to swipe roles. It makes it sound simple and so reduced that to turn a company around is just having founders swiping roles. But that’s beside the point of the article. Ultimately I think it’s on men to learn how to handle giving candid advice in a non-sexist manner. This investor just…
>> Ultimately I think it’s on men to learn how to handle giving candid advice in a non-sexist manner. And how would that be in this case?
"Hey XXX,and YYY, do you have time for a discussion tomorrow at lunch? I noticed some things that make me think the company could benefit from you two swapping some responsibilities. I've noticed XXX struggles to aaa,for example aaa1, aaa2 and at aaa3, and at aaa4 YYY seemed to feel very comfortable doing aaa despite having less experienced, and conversely I think XXX's experience might be better suited for bbb, because of my experience at CCCC. Happy to share more of my thoughts and get your own opionion on this at lunch"
I actually fail to see how you can respectfully tell someone you think they should swap roles and be sexist. Sure, if your whole argument is that "XXX isn't coming of agressive enough to survive in this boys game" then you might be accused of sexism...for some reason
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#196It is absolutely unforgivable that we allow terms such as “mansplaining” to exist and be used unfettered and then on the other had deride their position because ! men not explaining things candidly ! Something has to give. Obviously obnoxious behaviour should be curbed but the usage of mansplaing (and I would argue: the minting of the term when we have an equivalent in “condescending”) I don’t even know what to say.…
I think of "mansplaining" as men giving unsolicited advice rooted in assuming women are just stupid and failing to recognize that things work differently for women, so women can do the same things men do and get different results, which means women do things differently from men and sometimes there seems to be no good means for a woman to do anything. Kind of like male construction workers can take their shirts off i…
Men explain things to each other and there is a whole etiquette around doing it. Doesn't matter if the listener has a better, more original version of the story they will still listen. How else would oral histories get rehearsed and memorised.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does someone need to have a solution in order for their observation of a problem to be considered valid? Maybe the problem is real but they just don’t have as solution?
But they have no thoughts on a solution at all? Nothing? Not even an inkling of a suggestion to continue the discussion?
It's often useful to split up a solution between defining the requirements in one doc, and the design in a separate one. If you bleed design ideas into the requirements, you can get tunnel vision
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#198Why would you talk to women at all professionally, unless there are reliable witnesses or video recordings? As we increasingly see, witch hunts are already possible by deliberately misinterpreting written statements like mails or bug tracker messages. I would not want to get into a he-said-she-said real life situation. Mike Pence understood this early.
Why would woman step out of the kitchen amirite?
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#199There's an extreme right, and there's an extreme left. Right now the whole right is an extreme right, whereas the left is divided between more moderate and cancel culture. Apparently tucker said that the right would go into full fascist mode because of BLM/antifa (lol), I'm wondering if the left is going full woke because of the right going fascist. People are being triggered by the other side, and becoming extremist…
There is a whole spectrum, and a silent majority in the middle that doesn't want to engage with either aggressive extreme.
And in both cases, the extreme isn't particularly rare. Discussing which side has a worse distribution isn't easy to do accurately or particularly helpful
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#200Why would you talk to women at all professionally, unless there are reliable witnesses or video recordings? As we increasingly see, witch hunts are already possible by deliberately misinterpreting written statements like mails or bug tracker messages. I would not want to get into a he-said-she-said real life situation. Mike Pence understood this early.
> Why would you talk to women at all professionally, unless there are reliable witnesses or video recordings?
That's beyond the pale. I've banned this account for reasons explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26613795 above, and everywhere else you'll find moderation comments on this site.
Creating accounts to break HN's rules with will eventually get your main account banned as well, so please don't.