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They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by 29083011397778 »

ballenf wrote: post #170
thaumaturgy wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, this again. This law was written to give code enforcement a cudgel against unlicensed repair shops. All the auto enthusiast blogs and forums immediately lost their minds, but there hasn't been a sweep of the neighborhoods with officers asking to look inside of your garage for uncommon tools. The one complaint I could find online [1] was from a dude whose handle was "nimblemotorsports" and he said he had a car lif…

Why not just require that a car being worked on is registered to an owner at the address? edit: All good points in response. I'm convinced that there is no point in trying to tune the wording of a bad law.

Because I did oil changes at my grandparents house when I was younger. I didn't live there, but there was space, tooling, help, breakfast, and an excuse to visit afterwards.

"Politicians are idiots, the law should be X" is a trope, but finding a wording that doesn't run afoul of edge cases is very, very, difficult, even before lobbying and perverse incentives make things worse. Note I'm not saying this law was made in good faith, but starting an argument from an assumption of ignorance instead of malice seems more likely to change people's opinion in your favour.

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Post by fallingfrog »

vorpalhex wrote: post #63
NearAP wrote: post #45

According to the article, this event has been happening almost weekly for years 1) Does this mean the developers did not take this into consideration and have a plan on how to deal with this or handle it? 2) Does it mean the folks buying the apartments (or renting) did not do their due diligence and find out this is a weekly event? Takeaways here (for all of us reading this story) - do you research before you move to…

This is an intentional tactic. Buy land at a discount near a nuisance, sue/threaten everyone around you into oblivion, and then enjoy your now-significantly-more-profitable house/condo/apartment building. This has repeatedly happened with the music venues, which caused them to leave that part of the city. It happened with a really nice gun range. It happened with several bars. Unfortunately the car meetup is probably…

This should be the top comment

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Post by airhead969 »

Bukhmanizer wrote: post #86

There are ways that people talk about gentrification that always makes me slightly uncomfortable. As a non-white person, something always feels like gentrification is something that “good” white people like to blame “bad” white people for doing, when the real problem tends to be wider and more systemic. In this particular instance I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from…

Personally (white dude here), I don't think there's good or bad white new residents per se. I think there are people with different values and attitudes that are opposed to long-time residents. Some new residents then try to force these differences on others with their relatively stronger political influences. Regardless of live-and-let-live or my-way-or-the-highway, people moving in change the dynamics, culture, and attitude textures of the area.

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Post by sjg007 »

int_19h wrote: post #182
sjg007 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in a neighborhood and one guy has 6 cars in different states of repair and a boat on his property. Nice guy but I feel for his neighbors. Trailers and fish houses are not uncommon either but not permanent. We have ordinances against it but they aren't really enforced. We went from $200k houses to $400k houses so I expect things to change. I want the sidewalks fixed etc.. I want nice property values. 95% of the…

Why do cars on his property bother you?

6 of them, in violation of city ordinances. Two on the grass. We all agreed to the rules.

Re: They Just Moved to Austin. Now They Want to End One of Its Traditions

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Post by S_A_P »

This article paints a very clear picture of who is making the complaints without specifically saying it.

[quote] 'One particularly vocal tenant, a non-Hispanic white woman with short blond hair who appeared to be in her fifties, claimed that smoke from the tires was killing nearby trees and that traffic from the gathering would make it impossible for an ambulance to reach her in the event of a medical emergency (though two other roads to the apartment building remain accessible at all times). Another Weaver resident voiced more generalized criticism, calling the event a “display of toxic masculinity.”'

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I think they only stopped short of saying her name starts with a K and rhymes with "Aaron". My knee jerk reaction is why do people move somewhere and immediately try to change a place to their set of values? Are they just fundamentally unhappy people?

Despite what seems like an over-reaction from this person this sort of struggle with cars is nothing new especially in Texas. The Cars And Coffee thing is pretty big down here, and while I do love cars I have mixed feelings about C&C for a few reasons. Typically you have a subset of the group that does engage in very dangerous maneuvers on public roads. There are enough youtube videos of people doing dumb things in cars going badly that Im sure most of you are aware of it. Typically its more of an age related than race related problem as young kids and cars with 3-800 horsepower are a recipe for trouble. I dont really go to C&C events for this reason. EDIT TO MAKE MORE CLEAR- This seems to be aimed more at the the people complaining about slab/lowrider/people of color car culture. Those folks should be called out (the Karens for the sake of bevity). That should not be conflated, however, with people doing burnouts and other dumb things with cars. This is anti social behavior and should be policed if it is out of control. Of course the archetype that is discussed in this article is known for blowing things out of proportion, so without actually having been there who knows. I personally love how Texas can be such a melting pot with rich culture from all walks of life and there is very real concern about how the great migration from California will pan out.

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Post by dudul »

brightball wrote: post #184
Bukhmanizer wrote: post #86

There are ways that people talk about gentrification that always makes me slightly uncomfortable. As a non-white person, something always feels like gentrification is something that “good” white people like to blame “bad” white people for doing, when the real problem tends to be wider and more systemic. In this particular instance I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from…

> However it doesn’t mean anyone has to listen to you. IMO this is the lesson that a lot of people never seem to learn.

Especially the ones who shouldn't be listening but end up bending the knee.

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Post by hef19898 »

JeremyNT wrote: post #164
Bukhmanizer wrote: post #86

There are ways that people talk about gentrification that always makes me slightly uncomfortable. As a non-white person, something always feels like gentrification is something that “good” white people like to blame “bad” white people for doing, when the real problem tends to be wider and more systemic. In this particular instance I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from…

"Don't hate the player, hate the game." It's almost a tautology that only long term residents are around long enough to feel the negative effects of gentrification directly. I've been in my home for 15 years and only in the last 5 or so have I come to really understand what this trend has done to the community. My initial response to the current wave of millionaire neighbors is to resent the gentrifiers with all that…

This. Recently I had a discussion with a neighbor who owns the multi-apartment building next to our house about that very topic. All around our in our quarter, old buildings get renovated or torn down and rebuilt. Small bakeries close and the whole neighborhood is somewhat changing.

And then it struck me. 7 years ago we built our house here, in what used to be a slot of an old small factory. In the middle of buildings with smaller apartments, mostly rented out. And there we come, young well of couple building a house for us on a land plot large enough for, what, 6-8 appartments. In a sense, we were the first ones, or at least among the first ones.

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Post by dudul »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #157

Damn near everybody who thought about the way things were going foretold this kind of thing. First the California (or NYC, or DC, or Boston) money shows up kicking out most of the people who aren't at least a white collar level of moneyed. Then with nobody to stand in their way they Karens and Kevins (not necessarily from CA, just rich enough to still stick around after the CA money jacks everything up) swing their p…

And in a decade they'll complain that the area has lost all its former charm, move to another town and rinse and repeat.

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Post by hef19898 »

rmetzler wrote: post #125
Bukhmanizer wrote: post #86

There are ways that people talk about gentrification that always makes me slightly uncomfortable. As a non-white person, something always feels like gentrification is something that “good” white people like to blame “bad” white people for doing, when the real problem tends to be wider and more systemic. In this particular instance I find myself asking why it matters that the Weaver residents were originally not from…

I think one important part of Gentrification means there are people with more money moving into a neighbourhood. The real estate agents just showed the building to them on the quiet day and they bought their piece of it, believing it's like this all day every day. And when they move in, they realise the quietness was rather the exception than the rule. If they were from the area before, they would have known. But bec…

This minority has a tendency to force these things, even by court if necessary. Clubs in cities, church bells and cows in villages. Kindergardens, schools. Heck, even shops and decade old craftsman outlets.

No idea what drives these people.

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