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The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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DDoSecrets targeted the most vulnerable voices in society, people banished to Gab for their political beliefs. They literally work for the liberal ruling system.

> most vulnerable voices It's really sad you apparently posted this seriously.

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In a way this makes sense, the mega platforms have become a highly uniform slightly left leaning milquetoast walled city. That leaves being either a raging socialist (guilty) or a raging....bigot. The far right isn't tolerated as they're dangerous to advertisers sensitivities. Meanwhile the far left individuals are mostly tolerated but they're also all very aware that if the far right were to disappear overnight, the…

I'm hesitant to even admit that far-left politics are more accepted; I've seen harsher rejection of socialist ideals than legitimate, objective fascism. But I agree with your general point - if the far right was gone overnight, the far left would be next up on the chopping block. > highly uniform slightly left leaning milquetoast walled city. This is absolutely true, though. It's become their immediate point of mocke…

> I'm hesitant to even admit that far-left politics are more accepted

Yea, I should have been more specific, it depends heavily on the circles you run in.

> It's frustrating, because I think that the left should chill out with the identity politics

It seems to me like this is not uncommon. There's a lot of oneupmanship in politics where whoever is the most rigid and unyielding to complexity in their belief system is the most worshiped because people can't distinguish a rigid ideology from an internally consistent one. On the left this results in constant twitter mobs and on the right it results in capitol mobs.

That said, while it makes an easy target for the right to rally around, if that were to go away, the reality distortion field would just target the next-lowest hanging fruit.

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JSTOR and the Harvard press needs to just go away. As someone who does IT for a university library in Germany JSTOR access is just ridiculous, even ignoring their fees.

https://www.amazon.com/Ethics-Authenticity-Charles-Taylor/dp...

I can ship a 30 year old paperback of it for my personal use to my home for 60$, that is true. I'm not sure what else you are trying to tell me.

Do you personally think that is a good offer?

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Still reading the article, but this is an interesting blurb if nothing else: "To be truly countercultural today, in a time of tech hegemony, one has to, above all, betray the platform, which may come in the form of betraying or divesting from your public online self." I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought.

> I hadn't thought of boycotting much of popular online space as being counter-cultural. It's an interesting thought I think the interesting part is that it's kind of counter-culture but it itself is not really a culture at all. There are no groups (as far as I know) for people who eschew social media. They don't meet up at the pub and talk about it, they don't have any kind of organization, even a loose one. People…

Yeah, they organize, and yeah there are groups. You just wont hear about them on social media. It's better this way.

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> I remember how Mortal Kombat and DOOM were going to cause the fall of civilization. redisman, could you tell more about this?

Probably referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_congressional_hearings_on... Keep in mind when these games were released there was no rating system for video games. The ESRB came about because of these hearings.

And yet by 1995 Bill Gates was appearing in a video promo for Doom on Windows, wearing a trenchcoat and carrying a shotgun. For obvious reasons, this kind of nerdy frivolity wouldn't really be palatable after 1999.

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"Antisocial media" would a truthful title. I don't even like texting. Email is a letter replacement. Call me and pickup when I call, or GTFO. Faceblock, Twatter, Instaglam, Discard, Snapper, TikTak, LinkedOut can all listen to the flushing sound of me deleting their advertising monetization. "Buh buh all of your Ivy and Pac12 associations that made you look important on a résumé." Too bad, I haven't talked to most of…

I hadn't heard "antisocial media" before but I love it

The antisocial social club most def raises the Jolly Roger flag against "social" media. ;-]

At some point, I just want a private platform that is paid for using microcredits, no ads/data harvesting, requires verified named people with faces (improved communication quality), connections only stay alive if you actually interact with them IRL, doesn't automatically share everything with everyone in a single context, and doesn't promote dangerous behaviors for likes/shares. The only purpose of hidden rating tags (in lieu of likes and shares) should be that a viewer's own incoming content gets slightly prioritized. Oh and no instant notifications, no news link sharing/"retweeting", no messaging or chat (there's email), and a user only gets to look at it twice a day. Basically, solve many of the societal and social problems FB exploits and creates.

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Imagine the Instagram posts profiling the weirdos like myself who simply have not been using Instagram for the past decade for the Instagram audience. "What do you do when you visit a scenic vista, if not take pictures?" "I look at it for a time and leave."

Reminds me of the tyranny of the remembering self. How much would you pay for a vacation where you can’t take any pictures and your memory is erased afterwards?

About 20USD for a fifth.

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My teenage son asked me the other day what "grunge" and "goth" were. I was then trying to explain "subculture" and "counterculture", and it was surprisingly difficult to explain.. or convey, especially in the context of what he's seen so far in his life. I tried using examples of my own youthful adventures and communities -- still not easy.

https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Aesthetics

Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture – you just won’t find it on Instagram

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Imagine the Instagram posts profiling the weirdos like myself who simply have not been using Instagram for the past decade for the Instagram audience. "What do you do when you visit a scenic vista, if not take pictures?" "I look at it for a time and leave."

Reminds me of the tyranny of the remembering self. How much would you pay for a vacation where you can’t take any pictures and your memory is erased afterwards?

I stopped taking pictures on vacation (and other events) quite a while ago because I realized I never look at them later. So I spend the time being more focused on the actual thing, and have better memories. I wouldn't like the memory erased thing.
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