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How many left wing dictators have there been?
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Stalin and Mao were communists.
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Alternative viewpoint: platforms without censorship tend to be right wing because that is what succeeds in a free marketplace of ideas. Left wing ideas require censorship to thrive.
How many left wing dictators have there been?
Hundreds. Stalin. Hitler. Mao. The list of genocides is longer than my arm.
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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…
> Both market to the (mostly American) far right, with their shtick being basically "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation". It’s incredible that supporting free speech is considered to be only important enough to the “far right” now to be worth marketing to. Free speech used to be something all Americans supported and defended.
> It’s incredible that supporting free speech is considered to be only important enough to the “far right” now to be worth marketing to.
It's because private companies don't want to host their extreme views. Private companies free to regulate their own platforms is a very Republican position.
Hobby Lobby and Chic Fil A are perfect examples of right leaning companies imposing their own political views of what is acceptable on their employees and customers.
It would be liberal to regulate what private companies allow or block on their platforms, which is why Republicans complain about being cancelled but don't take action. Forcing companies to allow free speech using regulations is a liberal proposition.
Right leaning people are free to create their own platforms that cater to far right conspiracies, racism, homophobia, death threats, and white supremacists. And that's what they did
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That's a very obtuse and dishonest take of the the Nazi party and socialism. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/05/right-need... Besides, party names have never been a good indicator of political standing. Only policy is. You can look at the Liberals in Australia as an example of a conservative party.
No it's not. They built roads, made the people's wagon (volkswagen), etc.
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> I can cherry-pick several thousand twitter messages I've heard this claim asserted before. I am unconvinced. Can you show me some examples?
https://terfisaslur.com/
an entire website with people saying things about terfs but not a single sentence explaining wtf a terf is, i'm too old for twitter feuds
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First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.
You'll be a fascist sooner or later, don't worry.
By this logic, we shouldn't make or enforce laws because someday, someone can pass a law against harmless behavior.
Regulation, moderation, and law enforcement are always a balancing act. We can't just say that balance is an impossible dream, so let's just give up.
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Maybe you can refresh my memory, was it the "American mainstream left" that just sieged the Capitol in a murderous attempt to overthrow democracy?
The looneys in the right also are plentiful. the "American mainstream left" has been: Silent on their idol Biden bombing a middle east country. Hawkish on having a confrontation with China. Even a military one. Calling for any people with real or perceived criticism of them to be cancelled. Organized the BLM protests which caused 100X more economic damages than the crazies in the Capitol. They are in bed with the mai…
Wait, what? Leftists are meming about how disappointing they find Biden and third-way Democrats are all the time.
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Because the only defense they constantly employ for saying atrocious things is that it's not literally illegal to say them. It's not literally illegal to be racist, it's not literally illegal to be xenophobic, it's not literally illegal to be transphobic. So they think they should be all those things, although they don't call themselves those names. Things should be said based on the inherent merit of what they say,…
I agree with you, but Twitter is rife with leftists being almost as horrible as Gab's extremists and not getting banned because Twitter execs lean left. So let's not act like Gab users are the only ones being awful.
Good luck with that position. Too many people fail to recognise the Ying and Yang that is Twitter and Gab. Both of them are dominated by extreme ideologies, but only one has all celebrities, politicians, governments and business leaders.
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#199At Ars Technica, few of the commenters are concerned about the erosion of privacy and freedom of speech of Gab users.
First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.
First they came for the fascists. Then they came for the conservatives. Which made fascists recruit conservatives. Then they came for free speech advocates. Which made fascists recruit them. Then they came for capitalists. Which made the fascists recruit them.
Don’t you worry, the fight isn’t over. The more you ban, the larger the counter groups get and the more radicalized they get. You see it today already. Book burners were never on the correct side of history.
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How many left wing dictators have there been?
Hundreds. Stalin. Hitler. Mao. The list of genocides is longer than my arm.
This is a very interesting world view you have where Hitler is left wing. I think that alone scuppers any substance to your argument.
Stalin and Mao would only be left wing if you prescribe to the thought that communism by nature must only be left wing. I assume your train of thought on Hitler is similar because you're likely equating the socialist word in the Nazi party to left wing socialism.
At best this is dishonest and ignoring actual policy.