Software has ironically only led to more and more vertical and horizontal integration while evangelists had been predicting the utopian opposite while ignoring the warning signs.
Extremistan, see Black Swan by Taleb.
Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
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#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Commerce Layer has a business model with no revenue sharing: https://commercelayer.io/
I guess maybe you have some connection to Commerce Layer, because you've mentioned them here multiple times now. If you do, perhaps you'd like to tell them that I just visited their site and after a few minutes of reading, I still don't understand what they offer or why it might help me. The pages I saw were full of buzzwords and vague arguments, but had little substance: no high-level explanation of the scope of the…
(not related to parent) Excellent feedback! Thanks
Would there be a way to contact you to ask for feedback on another potential ecommerce product? (doesn't exist yet, so that's why there's no link). My email is in profile.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#193They passed the point of no return as soon as they started giving out business loans via Shopify Capital. This backlash against lock-in strategies will continue to dog Shopify.
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The author misunderstands some of the complaints against Apple. In this case: (1) Apple is effectively a monopoly, much more so than shopify. (2) the author can still sell to customers your SAAS service, just not through the shopify store. (3) I could be wrong but I believe the shopify store brings lots of customers. For most developers on the app store, apple does not bring customers (this is why many people argue t…
We don't know this specific scenario, but it's highly likely that the application in question directly reads or writes non-public data on their clients' storefront operations and accounting. In that case, there's very much a sense of lock-in. Shopify does not have an open API where anyone can access data given an OAuth token; it will not let this app use their API unless it complies with their terms. See: https://sho…
If properly motivated SaaS companies can switch from one cloud provider to another (AWS GCP Azure), a far more technically difficult operation, it’s eminently possible to switch off Shopify. It’s far from cheap or easy so the business may decide it’s not worth the time or money, but far more difficult technical migrations have happened. Be aware of your options - if Shopify decided to raise the price they charge 10x, would you really just roll over and pay it because it’s “absolutely prohibitive” to move of them? 100x? Your branding is your own, and Shopify does not control that - you do. I’m not saying you should move off Shopify for the fun of it, just that alternatives exist.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah no VAT at this point but seems like a road map item for certain. I don't give tax advice but in the United States each state handles sales tax and economic/physical nexus on digital goods differently. All of these are on my radar for MakePostSell and all online sellers should educate themselves on the rules for their region.
Unfortunately "the rules for their region" can be incredibly complex: selling online means you don't necessarily know (or care!) what your customers' region is. It's complex; good luck if you decide to tackle it!!
I think I've already captured enough complexity in MakePostSell to make it possible to implement sales tax. It's not an unsolvable problem since we have plenty of examples in the wild.
I'm sure the examples hide the complexity with abstractions and I'm currently naive to all the edge cases, which makes me but not thankfully not ignorant to the path ahead.
From first principles we should be able to form a generalist approach to solving sales tax. Should be an algorithm in the public domain as far as I'm concerned. : )
I'd take a solution that got me 80% there.
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I have noticed a pattern these days - people publicly criticise certain behaviours and then they do exactly what they criticise. They think that majority of people won't actually verify that and such message will embed a positive impression about that person. Then you have people rather lie to themselves rather than accept that they were wrong, so if they later find out that those people actually were doing what they…
Everyone thinks they’re different. This other person’s bad behavior is a pattern, but my own is one time things. I’m certain I have my facts right about their behavior from skimming these articles/internet comments, but they are wrong about what I’m doing because they’re too lazy to do their own research. They don’t deserve it, but I do. They’re doing it in bad faith, but I’m not. Their behavior is inexcusable, but y…
I tend to sum that up with a joke self contradictory sentence: "Normally this would be special pleading but....".
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#197Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#198Are you surprised by this? It's like going on Upwork and offering to charge customers less by direct invoice instead of their Upwork charging service lol come on son
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Yeah it sucks, I just think of it as the marketing fee. I have done literally zero marketing other than put my app on their store and it has been selling for 6 years now. As of now, the app pays for the mortgage, car payment and then some so I can't complain too much I guess.
may I ask what exactly you sell?
I have an app on the Shopify app store that helps users manage their inventory.
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#200You have to use Shopify Billing for shops that installed your app through app store, but you can have Stripe for apps that installed your app directly through your site for example, that's how business I'm working for is doing. Basically if you want Shopify App Store customers, you have to give 20% to Shopify, but you still have option of acquiring users yourself through your site without app store. Is it fair? Maybe…
The Shopify terms state that if your application accesses the Shopify API and is used by two or more merchants, then you have to give 20% to Shopify. Do you have any references on there being an exception for apps not installed through the store ? I would be very interested.
It could be they got special permission for that, I'm not the owner