Stripe bans Trump campaign

Post by cpncrunch » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:48 AM UTC

skzv wrote: post #140

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #95

There is a difference between bank accounts, Visa/MasterCard access and Internet service, on one hand, and App Stores, Twitter accounts and payment providers, on the other hand. The First Amendment promises both free speech and free assembly. Core to the latter is the freedom not to assemble. This freedom is regulated. You can’t refuse to do business with protected classes. But political affiliation is not a protecte…

> But political affiliation is not a protected class. Classes that are protected now, were not protected at some point. I think the discussion revolves not around whether political affiliation is a protected class, but whether it should be, in a sense- whether what is going on is good or bad for society, not whether or not it is illegal. You are entitled to believe that it is good, of course.

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:49 AM UTC

zionic wrote: post #159

cblconfederate wrote: post #136

I m sorry but all this concerted action feels (from afar) a lot like "if people don't vote the way we want, we re just gonna have to force them". It's not about overreach, but companies are not political entities, and reversing this relationship is a self-defeating travesty And if they are doing it for cheap popularity points -- well trump may be gone in a week, but his voters won't leave. this just reinforces mistru…

What’s amazing is this is, despite most commenters agreeing here, incredible evidence for the “they’re all controlled by the same people” crowd. This level of coordinated action shouldn’t be possible in a healthy, diverse, competitive environment.

Post by mhh__ » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:49 AM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #129

bdcravens wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said previously of cryptocurrency: "I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity."

He might have an epiphany, due to his changed circumstances.

Post by suchire » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:49 AM UTC

sircastor wrote: post #177

dataflow wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Stripe and Twitter are pretty clearly the latter. They might be the latter, but I wouldn't consider it obvious. Regarding social media, we've gotten to the point where even US Visa applications ask for social media handles (and I understand they consider it as a negative datum if you don't provide one). And we're also at the point where some companies won't provide you with respectable service unless you @ them on…

Wasn't there a sort-of reverse issue a year or two ago, when the President was blocking people on twitter and a court ruled that he was violating their 1st amendment rights? Is it exclusively because of his office? Could it be construed the other direction?

Post by camhart » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 12:50 AM UTC

Trasmatta wrote: post #135

camhart wrote: post #85

All of these silicon valley companies need to realize they live in a bubble. You can't continue doing this and expect it to be recieved well. Yes the extreme right is ridiculous. But the extreme left is too. Spend some time outside silicon valley and other liberal hubs. Understand the perspective of others. I am not in favor of violence. I am not in favor of Trump's behavior. However Trumps stance on policy typically…

> But these moves come across not as anti-extreme-right, but anti-conservative. No, they're anti-"storm the nation's seat of government with an angry mob intent on killing members of Congress and / or the Vice President, as a last ditch effort to overturn a democratic election"