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The Internet Is for Porn

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Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by lostgame »

lostgame wrote: post #4

As an asexual person, I wish this wasn’t the case, and I find it extremely triggering how hard it is to completely avoid adult content online. It certainly has had a negative affect on my mental health. I also find it ridiculous how services like PornHub and OnlyFans are featuring a lot of videos which clearly fetishizes borderline (okay, obvious) pedophilia, and, since its profitable, only pull it down when they mig…

Well, this was it.

I hope you all enjoyed tearing me to shreds - I’m sorry that my sexual assault isn’t a good enough excuse for my sexuality and I’m sorry my triggers inconvenience you.

No; for real - I’ve been here ten years and just sent an email to close my account.

I don’t know what the hell is wrong with you people, but this is maybe the tenth incident of singling out and shitty behaviour to me this year alone on this forum, whether it’s for being transgender, gay, asexual, or now, for even daring to open up about sexual assault.

I’ve had it. There are communities where decency can prevail.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by Semaphor »

kodah wrote: post #29

Porn always reminds me of other classical debates that have no end like guns and abortion. The camps of folks in the middle who are cognitively capable of making a difference can't because the outsized voices on either side of them are screaming for either total freedom or total shutdown. They actively fear monger people out of action so no real progress is made. It prevents the best coders and business people from w…

> cannot be purchased with credit or debit cards.

I remember buying porn with CCBill (from my experience, a payment company for porn and shareware) many years ago. I don’t remember there ever being a time when there was a problem purchasing porn.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by cute_boi »

est31 wrote: post #159
fullshark wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that is a truly cynical perspective on life and marriage.

Not every marriage is that way, there are many marriages where real love exists for decades. Those are a great ideal to strive for! But status and wealth is and remains a big component in the dating market.

agree :) The reason status and wealth remains big is most people wants easy life. And we people are taught we should work hard to earn money from school level. Society say we should become Doctor/engineer/High Level Manager at least where I live. If we can marry rich people and live happy life why not?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by what2build »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #126
what2build wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are hardly working for Google because they want to. People are hardly working in slaughter houses and coal mines because they want to. Feminists I know are selling themselves because they like sex, and controlling their bodies time economy is their choice. One would think on this forum that it’s a gradient of statistics and not black and white anecdotes would be more obvious. Exploitation of minors is one thin…

> Feminists I know are selling themselves because they like sex, and controlling their bodies time economy is their choice. Not to dwell on this so much, as my observations of sex workers were those who did it for need rather then pleasure, but what part of 'selling yourself' is empowering? I mean if you like something, like a hobby, you usually don't seek to monetize it if you want keep enjoying it. It seems to chea…

How you can connect a handful of (some college educated) women I know putting their body where they want with men they pick as being anything like a billionaires sex cabal drugging and buying kids from poor parents are at all similar is some Machiavellian effort. Bravo.

But since we’re on the subject; maybe put less value into financial trade which is the contemporary value store propping up the exploitation of billionaires.

Perhaps buy fewer gadgets that prop up the economy they grift on from the masses agency.

Perhaps be more for raising taxes to distribute wealth to communities that can use it if you’re that worried.

Above all perhaps avoid centralizing authority over agency in private power. A pattern we keep buying into as a species only to realize it rather makes things worse for the majority.

Put your agency into something that tackles artificial social problems (stock values, disposable widgets sold!, not enough money for M4A or community uplift in poor areas) instead of (sad as it may be) human issues that have existed forever, and there’s precious little we can do about it. Even if billionaire sex cabals vanish, are you going to scour the world seeking out every tribal instance? Or are you simply reaching for acceptable semantics from your perspective?

In other words: walk the walk when it comes to pushing back against immoral behavior as you see it. Semantic battles here over specific instances are self congratulatory and empty if we’ll simply equivocate away structural changes.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by marvin »

What a super fascinating demonstration this thread is of why OnlyFans could never have been a Silicon Valley company.

I'm not going to risk getting pulled into any of the ten different arguments going on here, beyond stating that I consider it a very good thing to increase the agency of the most vulnerable members of this line of work. But suffice to say that with this level of vehement disagreement even on whether sex work has any sort of societal value at all, it's really no surprise that this lucrative opportunity has gone to a region that doesn't have these moral qualms.

And that is a little surprising, given that, as the author points out, Silicon Valley takes no issue with any number of other industries that have debatable moral consequences.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by FeepingCreature »

bonoboTP wrote: post #131
FeepingCreature wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, this notion of "men are anti-porn" seems very antithetical to my lived experience.

"Men" as such are never anti- or pro- anything. There's endless lines of division among "men". Some men want to keep the "flow" of sex under control and don't like when sex is "handed out" too easily to men they don't see as worthy. Some other men like the deal if they operate the business like a pimp or porn producer. Consumer men may like it because they feel they can't satisfy their urges in other ways or they don…

Right, I just have a disagreement with the notion the article peddles that women are somehow better, that this is a "man issue."

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

ankit219 wrote: post #65

NB: Writing from a perspective of someone who grew up in a conservative society (Tier 2-3 city in India), and may have a different take. Porn has become one of those buzzwords which triggers an emotional response and is used as a political tool by everyone. ("Taking away our culture and morally corrupting the young generation" is a common refrain heard around me by prominent people even today). I feel that anything w…

If one's culture can be taken away by porn, one hadn't much culture to begin with.

If one's morals can be corrupted by porn, one hadn't much morals to begin with.

Where porn exposes one's weaknesses, one should introspect to evolve, not tilt against windmills.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by dang »

adwn wrote: post #22
lostgame wrote: post #4

As an asexual person, I wish this wasn’t the case, and I find it extremely triggering how hard it is to completely avoid adult content online. It certainly has had a negative affect on my mental health. I also find it ridiculous how services like PornHub and OnlyFans are featuring a lot of videos which clearly fetishizes borderline (okay, obvious) pedophilia, and, since its profitable, only pull it down when they mig…

> As an asexual person, I wish this wasn’t the case, and I find it extremely triggering how hard it is to completely avoid adult content online. By "extremely triggering", I assume you mean "somewhat annoying"? Why does it annoy you that "adult content" is difficult to avoid completely? Should a homosexual person be annoyed (or "triggered") that depictions of heterosexual behavior can't be avoided completely? Or vice…

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by johncena33 »

bonoboTP wrote: post #108

"Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." I think the debate is not really about porn, but people's sense of justice, cheating, deserving things or not etc. Some feel like porn gives unearned satisfaction to young men, a virtual substitute they don't have to work for. The bitter other side will say, no shit, I won't slave away to get screwed over, it's much more straightforward business to co…

> Others may feel camgirls are collecting undeserved money, they don't do actual noble valuable work, just cash in based on their genetics and immorality.

As someone who is a supporter of legal sex work and pornography. The "cashing on genetics" part bothers me the most. I don't know how to process when good looking people can earn thousands of dollars almost doing nothing (particularly on digital platform like OnlyFans), whereas regular people have to work day and night to earn a living. Right now, when sex-work is stigmatized, it seems fair because they are getting paid a lot while suffering the stigma. Similar to a lot high-risk job is also high paying because of the high risk. But once sex work gets accepted in the society, then why should they get paid so much without the work like rest of the society. Maybe if sex-work gets destigmatized it will not be very high paying profession.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

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Post by [deleted] »

africanboy wrote: post #113
kayodelycaon wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being sex repulsed and asexual are two very different things. I’m both asexual and write pornography. I just don’t feel sexual attraction. My understanding of sexual attraction is limited but I’ve learned to approximate it in my writing by talking with a lot of other porn writers and using my own roughly equivalent experiences to fill the gaps.

Apparently the person I was replying to is both, but declared themselves as asexual, not as sex repulsed. They might be confused.

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